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Hi all, I finally made it back to may favorite flight sim after being away for some months due to work.
As I started flying again I was re-encountered a few minor issues I had experienced before and encountered a new one that you might be aware of them anyway.

#1- After me and my comrades finished the mission (spending all our ammo and left no enemy fighters around during any Campaign or instant mission) I went to map and pressed the "Home" option in the list to make a quick return to our base in France, to my surprise I saw (on the map) my plane icon together with the rest of my squadron made a U turn and went right over the burned-out RAF airbase (our mission's target) and were welcomed by heavy barrage of HAA and AAA guns,:shock: in some occasions I get blown-up before I could take any action. Further more the "Home" option disappears from the Map options list.
Also I got the same results when I pressed the "Auto pilot" on the way back to France.

#2- Last night I decided to start my Me-110 manually (for the first time) at the start of a mission, but I couldn't push forward or move the Magnetos Levers while I had no problem with the rest of levers in the cockpit.

Thanks for your attention.

Cheers.

Raccoon,

Yer back.



I do not use the mouse click stuff to start engine(s). Prefer to have Keyboard Engine Controls.
The ME110C starboard engine Magneto is impossible to access with mouse clicky action.
I always use Keyboard Engine Controls.

CPS_Bomber has written instructions on how to make Keyboard Engine Controls. Righteous it is too!
In the BoBII Manual, go to here:



Your prayers will then be answered, as to question 2.

Here is how I assign Keyboard Engine Commands:


Could make it simpler by editing out stock key commands that I never use,
but starting engines is not always sweet.
My son gave me his 2004 Ford Mustang convertible, which I love to drive. Only $2,500 left to pay it off.
Disconnected the battery and the stinking COMPUTER changed the idle timing, so now I gotta goose the gas, like a Model T
to get the engine going.
OK, only takes a few seconds to warm up and then I'm on my way.
"Hey Jack? Why is that bloody yellow SERVICE ENGINE SOON indicator on?" queried I.
"I think it needs a new oxygen sensor." Jack proposed.
"Fakking fancy new engines! I miss the old days!" I thundered.

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One recent poster was writing how it was way too easy to bail out of an aircraft. Just press the key combo CONTROL + E.
Should be
1st Get rid of the Harness! Only one hand burned!
2nd Open the Canopy! Please god let it work!
3rd Turn turtle and invert the aircraft for gravity help to clear the goddamned tail!
4rth Climb out into the air and know that you packed yer own parachute, and may righteously open!

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"Toto! I don't think we are in Kansas anymore!" Dorothy, OZ
"sniff.. sniff.. Snort! ARF! GGRRRR! ARF! (Tod der stinkenden republikanischen Partei, diesem ignoranten religiösen Monstrum.)" Toto

I am just trting to reproduce.

You went to map pressed the M key and pressed home?

I see no home after the M key. I must not understand what you did exactly.

The mags in the 110 do work but the area to point at is small and it has been too long for me to remember exactly where you need to point.

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Buddye

Intel I7 920 processor (2.66GHz, 8MB cache), 6GB DDR3 Triple Channel @1333MHz, 1.8GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295, Sound Blaster X-Fi PCI Sound Card, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit , CH Fighter Stick & Pedals ,TrackIR4 Pro thanks to BobII crew.

Buddye,



Well.. if your are trying to touch this magneto "sweet spot" by mouse,
be hard.
Like a John trying to make a busy working girl hounded by her pimp, to "come" poking in her.
Ain't going to happen, except with the rarest of commodities.
Beg pardon, sir.

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No more Space Shuttles? Got to get rides only from the Russian's, now? Talk about pimps!
Damn.

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"Toto! I don't think we are in Kansas anymore!" Dorothy, OZ
"sniff.. sniff.. Snort! ARF! GGRRRR! ARF! (Tod der stinkenden republikanischen Partei, diesem ignoranten religiösen Monstrum.)" Toto

stickman,
Thanks for the Keyboard Engine Controls idea, I'll map my keyboard soon.

Buddye,
Sorry for the confusion, Here is what happen:

First we (Me-110s only, no escorts) raided an RAF air field and fought-off the Spitfires.

Once all the Spits were shot down, we regrouped and headed towards France.

Then I went to "Map" and pressed "Accelerate".

I then pressed "Home" in the list.

But instead of "Home", all Luftwaffe icons on the map (including my plane) made a U turn and back towards the RAF base where we just bombed.

Suddenly I found myself flying over the target again under heavy AA and AAA artillery barrage.

I went back to "Map" and Pressed "Accelerate" again.

But this time the only option available was the "Forward" option!

P.S.
Pressing "Auto pilot" after finishing the raid has the same result; turning you back right over the "Target".

Thanks again for your help.

Ah! This Map "Home" dysfunction I have seen before, long ago.
This is a BUG, and I have never touched "Home" after getting bitten by it. Once bitten, twice shy!
Since forgotten, because never again used. Do not need it, anyway.
I could probably reproduce it, now, but got other things to remake and test for propriety.

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It may be that the Rowan coders made "Home" the mission target,
like "homing in on the target!"
and not the flier's home air base.

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"Toto! I don't think we are in Kansas anymore!" Dorothy, OZ
"sniff.. sniff.. Snort! ARF! GGRRRR! ARF! (Tod der stinkenden republikanischen Partei, diesem ignoranten religiösen Monstrum.)" Toto

Could it be a case of you have to tick so many boxes or fly over a certain point before it will allow you to come home and if you haven't achieved those it will put you back where you need to be before it allows you home,only an idea as i don't use it.
I tend to take a compass heading for home point the plane that way then hit forward.

This is possible only in the campaigns even though I keep the way points as few as possible, anyway, as I said this is not only the case in the campaigns but also in the instant missions where all way points are preset and hidden.


I believe that's what's happening here, the game must have a set of way points that must be complied with or it will turn you right back.
It would make a better sense to have a "mission accomplished" code in the game to override the preset way points when either the raid is over, or if the player is out of ammo, gas, or his/her plane is damaged.


I used to use this technique before, but I thought using the "Map-Accelerate-Home" would be faster! I guess I was wrong.

Thank you all for your attention and helpful suggestions.

Cheers.

That sounds familiar.

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"Toto! I don't think we are in Kansas anymore!" Dorothy, OZ
"sniff.. sniff.. Snort! ARF! GGRRRR! ARF! (Tod der stinkenden republikanischen Partei, diesem ignoranten religiösen Monstrum.)" Toto

Yes, this bug also sounds familiar to me. But I also think that this is a very secondary bug and IMO not that important to deal with (at least for now) because this is a bug which is very easy to overcome. This is how I avoid this bug (still using time advance) when I want to get home:

- I put my aircraft's heading towards the home base and then acess the map and press the "1.Accelerate" option. This ensures that I fly with time advance towards my home base.


BTW Racoon, before you with select the "home" time advance option did you order your wingmen to regroup and/or return to base. If I'm not mistaken you must do this in order for the "home" time advance option sends you and your flight to home base (or else it will send you towards the target area).

Thanks for the reply ricnunes.

Agreed%100



I used to do that but some how (last week) I thought "Map-Accelerate-Home" would be faster.

Good point, no I didn't, since my wingmen were already following me closely I didn't consider that order to be necessary. I'll give it a try next weekend.

Thanks again.
Cheers.

Well I just finished testing the "order your wingmen to regroup and/or return to base" option with no avail.

Cheers.

Let me be sure I understand, you are the leader, after the fighting, and you entered R-4-1 or R-4-2 and your flight did not head for home?

All the flight should form up with you as best they can and head for home.

Then you can hit Accel, if you want.

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Buddye

Intel I7 920 processor (2.66GHz, 8MB cache), 6GB DDR3 Triple Channel @1333MHz, 1.8GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295, Sound Blaster X-Fi PCI Sound Card, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit , CH Fighter Stick & Pedals ,TrackIR4 Pro thanks to BobII crew.

Hi Buddye,

In the Campinas, the "Home" option works when you fly as escort fighter, but if you fly as ground attack or you fly instant missions, no. As I mentioned earlier we keep going back over the target unless I line myself up towards our home base in France an press "Forward" option. The "Home" option appears in the menu only once in the first attempt, after that it only offers you "Accelerate forward" and "Accelerate to the next way point", and even choosing the "Accelerate to the next way point" option keeps you flying over the target!

Yes they do form up.
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I also noticed when I assign Me-110's to escort medium bombers such as He-111 etc... the Me-110's are also loaded with bombs!!
In case you want to check it out, you should frag in and frag out first, cause the bombs won't show in the first frag regardless of flying as escort fighter (Me-110 of course), as fighter bomber or Stuka.

Cheers.