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I am trying to learn to Land the Spitfire.
But I can't find my way to the Airfield, much less a runway.

In attempting to Land on a flat field without a runway I crashed the
Spitfire 15 succeeded to land the Spitfire 3 times.

Perhaps if I placed a < #135 CH radar receiver tower > next to the runway I
could find it easier.

http://ccgi.ashorton.plus.com/bob/
<Terms [ radar] > produces a #135 < CH radar receiver tower >
that projects up into the clouds, should be easy to find.

QUESTION
1. How do I locate this Object (the radar tower) next to the Airfield ?
2. Can this Object be located in < Instant Action/Basic Training/Take Off >
3. Can this Object be located in < Instant Action/Basic Training/Landing >

many Thanks for your help

falconhawk

I do not know how to place an object maybe another player can help but I would not recommend it. Part of the fun in the game is trying to overcome problems that real RAF pilots had during the BOB. The RAF did not want to make their airfields easy for the Germans to find and bomb.

I would try another solution. Why place an object at an air field that was not historic. When you have a problem why not try to solve it within the game.

You can locate an airfield using the radio commands:

R-5-2 vector to home airfield or
R-5-3 vector to closes airfield

Practice on the airfields with a hard surface runways until you get good at locating grass airfields (like Tangmere in the IA Take off mission).

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These keys are used to target view ground objects:

F3 - Next ground target (this cycles through all the ground targets)
Shift F3 - Nearest 2 ground targets
Control F3 - Main airfield target. (a spot on the field usually just in front of the main hangars)

Note, when landing at your home, field pressing Control F3 first, does nothing. Press F3 once and then Control F3 will work.
To better see the target, Shift T will toggle a red diamond at the target.
Also, there is a range limit where if you are too far away from your airfield these F3 keys will not work. Not sure how many miles away the limit is.

In the FAQ forum there is this to show folks how to place objects:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=22026

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I use the method Budeye states. Contact the tower to ask for an direction. Once towers replied though I use the MSGVIEW command to padlock onto the subject and that allows me to then see where the airstation is. So just R52 or R53 and then once the towers responded press F5 and there you go theres your destination.

I got VAC setup also so that I just say "Hullo Short Jack, This is Yorker Blue Three, Can You Give Me A Vector To Home, Over" and then the sector controller rather than airfied responds with an direction. I then state "Recieved and Understood, Out" and I get padlocked onto the airfields location.

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In the RAF they say an landing's ok, when the pilot gets out and can still walk away.
But in the FAA the prospect is grim, when the landings piss-poor and the pilot can't swim.
Cracking show, I'm Alive, But I've still got to render my A25!

, excellent method, IMHO.

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I do it the ancient way:

1) look at the map
2) put my head out of the cockpit and start looking

The disadvantage is that one must fly lower to see the buildings's details to identify an air station.
I only use paddlock during some phases of combat. I feel it's more «real» that way.

Just my humble opinion

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I would go with that although the maps little more than terrain. No town names or any marks to distinguish any station but your own?

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In the RAF they say an landing's ok, when the pilot gets out and can still walk away.
But in the FAA the prospect is grim, when the landings piss-poor and the pilot can't swim.
Cracking show, I'm Alive, But I've still got to render my A25!

I'm with tipsypo, using VAC (I feel it adds to the immersion factor), I keep asking for directions until I'm within a few miles of my home base and then start scanning the ground until I find it.

I don't use padlock; always feel it's a 'cheat' too far but each to his own, I guess.

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If we are talking realism: I don't think it is very realistic to expect a chap in a wooden hut to "talk you in". He doesn't have a clue where you are he doesn't have radar! So how can he give you a vector to the base?

The real WW2 pilot would navigate using a folder up map on his lap and use his eyes to spot landmarks. Very difficult to do in practice but quite good fun in the game. The Bob 2 map could do with a lot more map-detail I.e. place names and visible objects such as churches etc.

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I printed a basic map off the internet and marked all the relevant airfields on it and found the sim very accurate in it's locations of airfields.
I have never had too many problems finding an airbase,landing yes LOL .
I would think control towers giving directions probably accurate but having said that if you read "first light" there is a bit in there where Geoffrey Wellum is trying to find an enemy bomber then home in thick fog but i think there were radio problems involved.
Be interesting to see if Tim can shed any light on the navigating side of things.

I once saw a website for control tower geeks. I think there may have been a map that shows all WW2 airfields. I'll see if I can find it again.

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I agree with that, radar(RDF) was only available at sector ops units and often not capable of spotting a single aircraft. Radios were also damaged in combat leaving no option but mkI eyeball.
Those of us who are are English already have an idea of the major landmarks so all we have to do is figure out the relationship of the various airfields.

I trained myself the same way BoB pilots would have done, by flying cross country to familiarize. Taking off and landing at different fields improved navigation and general flying skills. I fly at 240mph( 4 miles a minute) so that I know when I'm due to arrive.
Biggin, Kenley and Croydon are close so easy to find, Tangmere has Chichester harbour and cathedral.
Northolt was the only one I found a bit tricky but by flying along the Thames and turning north at Staines reservoirs it pops into view after a minute.

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Is this the one Terry? http://www.controltowers.co.uk/

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Like fellow Phantom said, old fashion navigation: speedxtime=distance. Add a pair of printed original ww2 charts bought from a2a and the trick is done. Allright, during dusk and sometimes at dawn I ask for a vector

Now, that's flying

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On the subject of radio, what would be really cool for those of us who like absolute realism would be animated windsocks.

Then we wouldn't need to ask for surface wind on our broken radios Ok so i know you BDG guys are already flat out but would be a nice touch if possible.

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