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Buddye, simhq the bobII foruma nd Heres what happened Thread.

Has lots of ideas in cracking story form

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Striker85,

Are you ready and willing to test Osram FOV change he made for your hardware?

I will PM you so you can test it out for us.

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I got the PM, thanks!

I'll test it out tonight after work.

I am sitting on the edge of my seat wondering what your findings are, this is very exciting! If you will post the results, much appreciated, thanks.

Patients, “grasshopper”. Good thing take time. Get your Hardware running and you can test as well.

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Zorro looks around his office that will end up being a Spitfire. His gauze catches several boxes, unopened, waiting to be used in flying over Britain. The new PC, three to go, 24" monitors. Like presents anxiously waiting for the big day to be opened. Zorro scratches his head wondering if the nice navy blue box with the Matrox 3 to go will be what it's bragged up to be. He places his flying goggles on his face, and wraps the silk scarf around his neck, grabs the throttle and joystick pretending to fly a Tiger Moth. Making plane noises with his mouth he is suddenly interrupted by his wife's loud call from the kitchen, "Your supper is ready". Zorro now realizes why he hates supper. "For crying out loud woman, can't you see I am doing something very important?" The dog barks in expectation of bumming the supper from Zorro. Wives, dogs, can't a guy get any peace around here? Now I know why I don't have kids, I'd never get anything usefull done. They would be bumming my computer, my food, my time flying BOB! He snaps out of his selfish mood and gently calls back to his wife, "Be right there honey, just set it on the table". thinking to himself... Rats!! Eating always gets in the way of flying just like work keeps me from flying. Work, that's a curse word. The only need for work is to get more money to pay Mr Visa for more flying stuff. Zorro just realises he went way off topic. Well, either i have a bad case of ADD, or hyper focused on flying. Two opposites, but one mindset, BOB, flying, gizmoes, new patch, Tiger Moth, yea baby yea! He unwraps his silk scarf and gently places the flying goggles beside the Saitek throttle quadrant. Well, I guess i better eat, as I need the energy to organize this office .... soon to be the new HQ for flight command and Spitfire cockpit. The dog barks again as he knows what a sucker Zorro is and an easy mark with sharing his supper. His smarter than human dog always outsmarts Zorro. Zorro thinks to himself, I hate not bring the alpha dog in the house. His wife barks, supper is getting cold. Zorro pounders, man, I'm third in this pack, even my wife out ranks me. Zorro clicks the submit button and rushes to the kitchen like the whipped pup he is. "Well, at least when flying BOB, the masked man gets to rule the skies! No barking dogs or wives here. Only me, the Spit, and the sky with more adventure than a kid in a candy store. I get to be the real me, steel blue eyed squared jawed hero babe magnet macho fighter pilot and all around cool guy!

ROFL

Striker, any news how it is going with Triple Head? My nails are bitten down to the quick in expectation of the results. Soon I will be chewing on my toe nails, as my fingernails are now tiny stubs. Thanks in advance for any info.

Hi Zorro,

I have been testing the new FOVs. They are a definate improvement over the old max of 110. I'll post a screen shot later today. I have been testing different planes and different FOVs but my preference right now is a FOV of 125, it seems the best IMO.

Zorro grabs a coffee and rushes into the office.. or more accurately refered to by his wife as the "Command and Control HQ for Spitfire Squadron 92". Powering up the CB Radio (also doubling as a computer hooked up to the internet), he calls out, Zorro to Striker, Zorro to Striker, come in please. Silence on the other end. Zorro realizes the hustle and bustle of life and time constraints on the Spitfire community. Hmmm... Striker must be on another mission, tied up with the logistics and other duties he's working hard at. Knowing how busy one can get, he chews nervously on his disappearing fingernails wondering what the out come of the Triple Head studies. Dog gone fingernails.. should stop chewing them. Better that than booze and broads, but not the greatest for scratching. The stress of combat has taken a toll on our hero. The masked man though macho and tough has one weakness.. fingernail chewing. Scratching is becoming much harder with these stubs.. got to invest in one of those wooden handled back scratchers. Without Triple Head, the new secret weapon for the Spitfire, the Hun can get a better tally on me. Our hero is always seeking an advantage over the hun, making him more of a hero than what he actually is, if that makes any sense. Maybe those 3 D glasses will give me an advantage also. His mind races with the myriad of gizmoes and "secret" weapons he can out fit his squad with. Mr. Visa is gonna love me this year. Turning around and gaizing at the boxes with the Squad's extra monitors he can only think of one thing.. Triple Head... got to get that Triple Head on the go. Britian and the balance of world power is depending on it. He says this with the determination and boldness that mirrors how William Shatner or more importantly Captain Kurt would express. Got.. to get ...Triplehead..working. Thinking of the reply.. Damm it Kurt.. I'm not a rocket scientist, just a doctor! The seriousness of the situation makes Zorro shutter. The free world is heavily relying on this, I know Striker will come through. Being hyper focused and distracted at the same time is a tough game for Zorro, but being in charge of Squad 92.. someone has to step up to the plate and carry the weight. Zorro's pager starts beeping. A call from the outside world to jump into action. Another day, another emergency. He scrambles to his van, turns the fuel cocks on, magnitoes.. sets trim.. prop pitch.. To be continued.......

LOL Entertaining post as always Zorro

Sorry for the lack of response, as you surmised I have been very busy in RL at the moment. I have been putting in about 20+ hours a week on the BOB coding though. Not anything presentable right now but I have been hacking my way through the code (i.e. learning it) and working on my simpit client code.

I'm making a client capable of displaying gauges and flight info on a second PC and I got pretty involved in the networking stuff. I started with a very simple and light UDP client/server but then decided this would be a good time to explore high performance client/server networking in Windows. I have done a lot of work with Linux in this area and was quickly sucked into this to see what is possible in the Windows world. I ended up putting together a pretty good high performance solution using IO completion ports. Way over-kill for my simple needs but hey, it was fun!

Anyway… on to the topic at hand, TripleHead2Go. One BIG word of warning, I don’t want to overstate what is possible today. With the current state of BoB and TH2G there is NOT a 3 View mode. BoB treats the TH2G as a single widescreen monitor. This means one single view stretched across all three monitors.

That is why Field of View (FOV) is so important. When you have a screen that is extremely wide like 3 monitors that a TH2G gives you, a normal FOV, even 110 deg, still puts you too close to the cockpit panel so you feel like you are squashed up next to the panel.

The mod Osram put together allows us to select a greater FOV than 110 deg, now you can select up to 135 deg FOV. THANKS OSRAM!!! The negative to this is that as the FOV becomes greater the distortion on the sides becomes greater as well. So you have to find a happy medium between a large FOV while minimizing the distortion. I found 125 deg to be acceptable to me, it gave me what I thought was an acceptable view with some distortion on the sides, but not that bad IMHO.

I will post screen shots of various FOVs next. If I recall correctly we now have 120, 125, and 135 deg selections. I would like to try a 130 deg FOV if possible, but IMHO I thought 135 was too distorted and the only other option available was 125. Others may like 135 so it will be interesting to see.

One final note, after I finish my client project I plan to implement a 3 View mode similar to what is available in IL-2. This would give you 3 different views on each monitor and would use the TH2G to its intended purpose. I believe this is do-able and I have been spending a little time looking into this as I work on my other project.

All resolutions are 3072x768.

Here is the 110 FOV


Here is the 125 FOV


Here is the 135 FOV




Here I try to show the distortions at different FOVs when looking around with TIR. The distortion only occurs at the monitor sides.

Here is the 125 FOV looking left with TIR. I tried to capture the distortion.



Here is the 135 FOV looking left with TIR. Notice the greater wing distortion.

Reading Striker's post distracted Zorro to the point he spills hot coffee on his crotch and yelps in pain as he runs out of command HQ into the living room. Fanning his... agenda, trying desperately to cool off the goods, his wife breaks out into wild laughter as the dog jumps up trying to help not knowing exactly what is wrong. Running out of the house with the dog in chase Zorro heads for the lake. Cold water is what I need and fast. Mr Big ain't gonna work no more unless I fix this fast. Zorro jumps into the lake and the dog follows. AHHH.. relief. Thought it was a trip to the emergency ward, but thanks to my fast thinking and quick reflexes, I saved the day. Zorro then notices the water over his hips. Normally this would not be a problem, but forgetting to remove his cell phone and pager from his belt, and jumping in a lake does not seem like such a great idea any more. Bummer... Dog gone phone and pager, ruined, water logged! Stupid hot coffee! The dog barks in excitement thinking Zorro wants to play in the water. Man that water is cold! how can a man be so stupid and smart within three minutes? Zorro wades back to shore and his laughing wife appears with a towel in hand. "You better remove those wet pants quickly before you and Mr. "Big" catch cold. The dog barks and wags his tail. He thinks the wife said "Pig" and Charlie the world's smartest dog loves pig. Zorro drags himself back into the house and dries off. ... to be continued...

That's very clear from your explanation there, Ztriker, thanks.

If you can implement a 3-view system, that would be absolutely fantastic.

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Great news! I expect you will publish this? BTW I know of some German cockpit makers who might very well be interested in this. To make a RL cockpit, AFAIK the use a big LCD with the hgauges and have a wooden plank in front with holes for all the gauges .




Correct.
BTW, sorry I did not have the time to react to your Il2 screenies yet. They are very very strange; I see no "kink" (German "Knick") as you would expect from a real solution aimed at 3 flat panels. Their code seems more aimed at a round display. Better than the curren BoB solution, but not perfect on a display system made up of 3 flat displays. Or maybe I missed the "kinks"?




I have an idea which could help you a lot on this, so at least before you start, contact me, for example via ICQ.