Problem with patch 2.12

[PV]

Hi Guys
I have been successfully running V2.11 with skins & it was great! I have just downloaded &
installed v12 but it starts up ok then after 10/20 secs crashes with a note 'Battle of Britain English Text has stopped
working'
Can you advise me what to do/what I have done wrong plz

Hi MM:
Just reviewed your previous posts, it seems you must
have bought a new vid card, as that was the obstacle
before, and if you found that would run 2.11 OK, then
v2.12 ought to have run OK as well, as we haven't done
anything to make the latter more challenging. Mostly
2.12 improved the campaign logic, with just a few
extra terrain goodies as usual. The general load on the
machine should be much the same between the two.
There was no addition to the multiskin for 2.12 either,
so that shouldn't be a problem.

There are few possibilities. If you patched up without saving your
previous bdg.txt file (that is an install option), and you had
tweaked some things to get 2.11 to work, you will have lost those
tweaks and will have to reset them. I believe, though, that GFX
settings should be preserved even when bdg.txt gets reset to
defaults. As always, particle density must be set at medium or lower.
Oh, and in the release notes are a couple of things about the launch
icon, which the installer messes with. Let's see...oh yeah:
Note7: Vista and Windows 7 users may need to apply the 'Vista/Windows 7 fix' to your desktop shortcut as a fresh 2.11 install will overwrite the previous shortcut.
In fact, it is generally a good idea to go over all the release
notes which are repeated in the thread I lifted your question
from.

When you say crash after 10 to 20 seconds, that is after launching
the 3D, right? I guess we can take a look at the crash log, though
it isn't likely to help much, as the problem is bound to be with
the system, not the program code. But it is odd to get this sort
of thing when the previous patch was OK. Going from v2.10 to 2.11
was a problem for people with 32 bit machines, but you have a 64 bit
machine, and there is no significant challenge from 2.11 to 2.12,
so I'm somewhat puzzled.

[madmax]

Hi
Thanks for coming back on that. Yep I took your good advice & purchased an expensive £250 Radeon HD 7790 graphics card which did the trick & ran V11 just fine with excellent
graphics etc. The only thing I did was to put the compass around the level flight indicator. It came on but was in a different plane to the indicator except for a couple of times so you viewed it at an oblique angle - very strange - I didn't get round to looking at what to do to cure it cos I realised that I should be running in V12 which is when my problems started!

I got fed up with it last night & shut down my computer down. I came back in tonight fired it up and yes you have guessed it - it worked just fine. I tried a couple of different missions & no probs. I then stopped playing for 20mins & then came back to it & stared the game again and as son as it gets into 3D it crashes with same message about English text has stopped working.

I extracted from the windows message the following details which are all double Dutch to me but I expect it will mean something to you!
Here is the message:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: bob.exe
Application Version: 2.1.2.0
Application Timestamp: 50d4f336
Fault Module Name: bob.exe
Fault Module Version: 2.1.2.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 50d4f336
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000ebe3
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

I can send my crash file details if that will help.
So its an intermittent problem which is frustrating to say the least because V12 looks great!
I would be very grateful if you have any ideas of what I should do!
Madmax

[PV]

I'm afraid that stuff doesn't help much. That stuff is windows
generated; we have BoB2 write our own crashlog. To be honest,
I can't do much with a crash file myself except what I've learned
from reading Buddye's analyses, to enable me to identify if the
crash is really due to BoB2 code, or, as is more usual, due to the
OS getting upset about something.

Anyway, The information necessary for diagnosing a crash resides in the crashlog.txt
file which is written in the BoB2 root folder. This file gets appended with
every event, so the relevant parts for the most current problem are found at
the bottom. I believe the date is right for v2.12 in the line below; the relevant
part of the crashlog will be in the 25 or so lines below the last instance of this
line in the file:

------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------

Somewhere in the first fifteen or so lines after that line, will be a line noting the
date of the crash, and you can check that to confirm the log is for a current
event. Some crashes are so fundamental that the program never gets a chance
to write a crashlog.

[madmax]

Hi PV
I will look at it tonight when I get home & send you the relevant extract to see what you can find
Thanks for your continued support I really appreciate it!
In my brief flying whilst the v12 remained stable I was taking off from Tangmere which is only 20 miles from my home ( it has a really great museum). I was delighted to see that one of you clever guys has put Chichester Cathedral in - its a great marker for coming in to land !!
Not that I have got that far recently before my computer crashed!!
MM

[madmax]

Hi PV
Below is my latest crash log extract - hopefully you can deduce something from it! In the meantime I am going to clean out the installation & reinstall &
see if that helps
I look forward to hearing from you
MM

crash log extract:
Stack dump (old format):
0018ffdc: 0047a88e fffde000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0047a88e fffde000
0018fffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=00000001 ECX=76BE371A EDX=000000B7 ESI=76680B4A
EDI=007A00E0 EBP=0018FFEC ESP=0018FFDC EIP=77299F45 FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 2/20/2014 09:55:52.
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, run by Max.
4 processor(s), type 586.
0 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7601 platform 2 Service Pack 1

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/2/2013 14:33:50
C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\HydraVision\HydraDMH.dll, loaded at 0x06250000 - 217088 bytes - 51ae69e3 - file date is 6/4/2013 18:27:48
C:\Windows\system32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x063c0000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0a090000 - 9728 bytes - 5110865d - file date is 2/4/2013 20:11:12
C:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0bf30000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Redit.ocx, loaded at 0x10300000 - 393216 bytes - 45ab6ca9 - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:38
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msmpeg2adec.dll, loaded at 0x5b090000 - 970240 bytes - 4a5bdaa8 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:46
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\quartz.dll, loaded at 0x5b190000 - 1328128 bytes - 4ea78b37 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:56:28
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, loaded at 0x5b310000 - 4415256 bytes - 51ae613d - file date is 6/4/2013 23:11:48
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, loaded at 0x5b750000 - 5963328 bytes - 51ae6347 - file date is 6/4/2013 23:11:44
C:\Windows\system32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x5bd00000 - 1828352 bytes - 4ce7b7b3 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:24
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\MFPlat.DLL, loaded at 0x5eb60000 - 352768 bytes - 4a5bda38 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:40
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\mpg2splt.ax, loaded at 0x5ebc0000 - 199680 bytes - 4d12e1eb - file date is 9/30/2013 19:54:20
C:\Windows\system32\D3DIM700.DLL, loaded at 0x5ec00000 - 817664 bytes - 4a5bd9ab - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:10
C:\Windows\system32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x5ecd0000 - 453632 bytes - 4a5bd9fd - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:14
C:\Windows\system32\DShowRdpFilter.dll, loaded at 0x5ed80000 - 252928 bytes - 4ce7b807 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:50
C:\Windows\system32\POWRPROF.dll, loaded at 0x5f750000 - 145408 bytes - 4a5bdb0c - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\system32\atiu9pag.dll, loaded at 0x5f860000 - 97448 bytes - 51ae5cf9 - file date is 6/4/2013 23:12:02
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\devenum.dll, loaded at 0x60450000 - 66560 bytes - 4a5bd9be - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:12
C:\Windows\system32\aticfx32.dll, loaded at 0x609e0000 - 990976 bytes - 51ae69b4 - file date is 6/4/2013 23:11:58
C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll, loaded at 0x60c40000 - 531968 bytes - 4a5bd9b8 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:12
C:\Windows\system32\d3d8thk.dll, loaded at 0x60f20000 - 11264 bytes - 4a5bd9a8 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:10
C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x61580000 - 16896 bytes - 4a5bda84 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:42
C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x61590000 - 72192 bytes - 4a5bda4e - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:44
C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x615b0000 - 20992 bytes - 4a5bda4f - file date is 7/14/2009 01:14:10
C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll, loaded at 0x615c0000 - 14336 bytes - 4a5bd998 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:00
C:\Windows\system32\ksuser.dll, loaded at 0x615d0000 - 4608 bytes - 4a5bdab3 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:36
C:\Windows\system32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x615e0000 - 172032 bytes - 4ce7ba26 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:02
C:\Windows\system32\slc.dll, loaded at 0x63b00000 - 27136 bytes - 4a5bdb0d - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:16
C:\Windows\system32\msdmo.dll, loaded at 0x65c00000 - 30720 bytes - 4ce7b8e5 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:04
C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll, loaded at 0x65c20000 - 145408 bytes - 4a5bd9c1 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:12
C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll, loaded at 0x65de0000 - 10240 bytes - 51b01541 - file date is 6/6/2013 04:50:58
C:\Windows\system32\oledlg.dll, loaded at 0x70bc0000 - 103424 bytes - 4a5bdace - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll, loaded at 0x70c10000 - 67072 bytes - 4a5bda07 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:14
C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll, loaded at 0x718a0000 - 854016 bytes - 4ce7b7bc - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:10
C:\Windows\system32\WINSTA.dll, loaded at 0x72000000 - 156672 bytes - 4ce7ba4e - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.7601.18201_none_ec80f00e8593ece5\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x72150000 - 530432 bytes - 51d56226 - file date is 7/4/2013 11:50:58
c:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP ProtectTools Security Manager\Bin\DpoFeedb.dll, loaded at 0x726b0000 - 640888 bytes - 50088a40 - file date is 7/20/2012 23:23:54
C:\Windows\system32\WTSAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x72760000 - 40448 bytes - 4ce7ba64 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x72770000 - 194048 bytes - 4ce7ba42 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:18
C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll, loaded at 0x727b0000 - 31744 bytes - 4a5bbf41 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll, loaded at 0x727c0000 - 81920 bytes - 4ce7ba28 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:18
C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x72910000 - 320000 bytes - 4ce7ba4b - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:10
C:\Windows\system32\ntmarta.dll, loaded at 0x72a70000 - 121856 bytes - 4a5bdae9 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:12
C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x72ab0000 - 245760 bytes - 4a5bdb3c - file date is 7/14/2009 01:11:26
C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x733a0000 - 242936 bytes - 4a5bdae0 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:17:56
C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll, loaded at 0x733e0000 - 78848 bytes - 4a5bda3d - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:08
C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x73440000 - 21504 bytes - 4a5bdb2b - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:18
C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x738d0000 - 195584 bytes - 4ce7b725 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\system32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x73a40000 - 213504 bytes - 4ce7b892 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:52
C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x73a90000 - 22016 bytes - 4a5bd9ec - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:26
c:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP ProtectTools Security Manager\Bin\DpoSet.dll, loaded at 0x73e30000 - 284536 bytes - 5005945d - file date is 7/20/2012 23:08:38
C:\Windows\system32\PROPSYS.dll, loaded at 0x74440000 - 988160 bytes - 4ce7b983 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:10
C:\Windows\syswow64\CRYPTBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74c70000 - 36864 bytes - 4a5bbf41 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:08
C:\Windows\syswow64\SspiCli.dll, loaded at 0x74c80000 - 96768 bytes - 52424339 - file date is 9/25/2013 01:58:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x74ce0000 - 1168384 bytes - 52506fc6 - file date is 10/5/2013 19:57:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x74e90000 - 34304 bytes - 4ce7b8c9 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x74ea0000 - 485888 bytes - 4ce7b82d - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\normaliz.DLL, loaded at 0x74f20000 - 2048 bytes - 4a5bdad4 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:09:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x74f30000 - 1820160 bytes - 52f34aaa - file date is 2/6/2014 08:41:36
C:\Windows\syswow64\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x75100000 - 663552 bytes - 51db9710 - file date is 7/9/2013 04:52:34
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x751f0000 - 350208 bytes - 4ce7b9e2 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\DEVOBJ.dll, loaded at 0x75250000 - 64512 bytes - 4ddb887d - file date is 9/30/2013 19:55:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-advapi32-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x75270000 - 10752 bytes - 50f3243a - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x75280000 - 828928 bytes - 4a5bda69 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:44
C:\Windows\syswow64\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x75350000 - 1667584 bytes - 4ce7b9d9 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:52
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\sechost.dll, loaded at 0x754f0000 - 92160 bytes - 4a5bdb04 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll, loaded at 0x75510000 - 1114112 bytes - 51fb1115 - file date is 8/2/2013 01:50:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x75620000 - 690688 bytes - 4eeaf722 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:57:04
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-user32-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x756d0000 - 4096 bytes - 50f322f9 - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\WLDAP32.dll, loaded at 0x756e0000 - 269824 bytes - 4ce7ba62 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-normaliz-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x75730000 - 2560 bytes - 50f3244e - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x75740000 - 6144 bytes - 4a5bdace - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\syswow64\LPK.dll, loaded at 0x75750000 - 25600 bytes - 51b0169d - file date is 6/6/2013 04:57:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x75760000 - 12872704 bytes - 51f1d731 - file date is 7/26/2013 01:56:00
C:\Windows\syswow64\CFGMGR32.dll, loaded at 0x76540000 - 145920 bytes - 4ddb8851 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:55:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\WS2_32.dll, loaded at 0x76570000 - 206848 bytes - 4ce7ba68 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-version-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x765b0000 - 3072 bytes - 50f322eb - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\USP10.dll, loaded at 0x765c0000 - 626688 bytes - 50adaddf - file date is 9/30/2013 20:02:10
C:\Windows\syswow64\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x76660000 - 833024 bytes - 4ce7ba59 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:22
C:\Windows\syswow64\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x76760000 - 175104 bytes - 51db9720 - file date is 7/9/2013 04:52:12
C:\Windows\syswow64\imagehlp.dll, loaded at 0x76790000 - 159232 bytes - 5261e244 - file date is 10/19/2013 01:37:00
C:\Windows\syswow64\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x767c0000 - 1414144 bytes - 4ce7b96f - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\CLBCatQ.DLL, loaded at 0x76920000 - 522240 bytes - 4a5bd9b1 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:04
C:\Windows\syswow64\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x769b0000 - 2168320 bytes - 52f35c70 - file date is 2/6/2014 09:57:24
C:\Windows\syswow64\KERNELBASE.dll, loaded at 0x76bd0000 - 274944 bytes - 51fb1116 - file date is 8/2/2013 01:50:44
C:\Windows\syswow64\NSI.dll, loaded at 0x76c20000 - 8704 bytes - 4a5bdad9 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:12
C:\Windows\syswow64\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x76c30000 - 640512 bytes - 521ea86a - file date is 12/19/2013 19:04:58
C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x76ce0000 - 119808 bytes - 4ce7ba53 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x76d40000 - 571904 bytes - 4e58702a - file date is 9/30/2013 19:55:56
C:\Windows\syswow64\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x76dd0000 - 311808 bytes - 524ccfcc - file date is 10/3/2013 02:00:46
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-shlwapi-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x77230000 - 9728 bytes - 50f3244f - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x77260000 - 1292192 bytes - 521ea8e7 - file date is 12/19/2013 19:04:58

[madmax]

Hi PV
Below is my latest crash log extract - hopefully you can deduce something from it! In the meantime I am going to clean out the installation & reinstall &
see if that helps
I look forward to hearing from you
MM

crash log extract:
Stack dump (old format):
0018ffdc: 0047a88e fffde000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0047a88e fffde000
0018fffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=00000001 ECX=76BE371A EDX=000000B7 ESI=76680B4A
EDI=007A00E0 EBP=0018FFEC ESP=0018FFDC EIP=77299F45 FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 2/20/2014 09:55:52.
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, run by Max.
4 processor(s), type 586.
0 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7601 platform 2 Service Pack 1

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/2/2013 14:33:50
C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\HydraVision\HydraDMH.dll, loaded at 0x06250000 - 217088 bytes - 51ae69e3 - file date is 6/4/2013 18:27:48
C:\Windows\system32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x063c0000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0a090000 - 9728 bytes - 5110865d - file date is 2/4/2013 20:11:12
C:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0bf30000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Redit.ocx, loaded at 0x10300000 - 393216 bytes - 45ab6ca9 - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:38
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msmpeg2adec.dll, loaded at 0x5b090000 - 970240 bytes - 4a5bdaa8 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:46
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\quartz.dll, loaded at 0x5b190000 - 1328128 bytes - 4ea78b37 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:56:28
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, loaded at 0x5b310000 - 4415256 bytes - 51ae613d - file date is 6/4/2013 23:11:48
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, loaded at 0x5b750000 - 5963328 bytes - 51ae6347 - file date is 6/4/2013 23:11:44
C:\Windows\system32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x5bd00000 - 1828352 bytes - 4ce7b7b3 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:24
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\MFPlat.DLL, loaded at 0x5eb60000 - 352768 bytes - 4a5bda38 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:40
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\mpg2splt.ax, loaded at 0x5ebc0000 - 199680 bytes - 4d12e1eb - file date is 9/30/2013 19:54:20
C:\Windows\system32\D3DIM700.DLL, loaded at 0x5ec00000 - 817664 bytes - 4a5bd9ab - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:10
C:\Windows\system32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x5ecd0000 - 453632 bytes - 4a5bd9fd - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:14
C:\Windows\system32\DShowRdpFilter.dll, loaded at 0x5ed80000 - 252928 bytes - 4ce7b807 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:50
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C:\Windows\system32\WINSTA.dll, loaded at 0x72000000 - 156672 bytes - 4ce7ba4e - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
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C:\Windows\system32\WTSAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x72760000 - 40448 bytes - 4ce7ba64 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x72770000 - 194048 bytes - 4ce7ba42 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:18
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C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x72910000 - 320000 bytes - 4ce7ba4b - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:10
C:\Windows\system32\ntmarta.dll, loaded at 0x72a70000 - 121856 bytes - 4a5bdae9 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:12
C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x72ab0000 - 245760 bytes - 4a5bdb3c - file date is 7/14/2009 01:11:26
C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x733a0000 - 242936 bytes - 4a5bdae0 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:17:56
C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll, loaded at 0x733e0000 - 78848 bytes - 4a5bda3d - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:08
C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x73440000 - 21504 bytes - 4a5bdb2b - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:18
C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x738d0000 - 195584 bytes - 4ce7b725 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\system32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x73a40000 - 213504 bytes - 4ce7b892 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:52
C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x73a90000 - 22016 bytes - 4a5bd9ec - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:26
c:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP ProtectTools Security Manager\Bin\DpoSet.dll, loaded at 0x73e30000 - 284536 bytes - 5005945d - file date is 7/20/2012 23:08:38
C:\Windows\system32\PROPSYS.dll, loaded at 0x74440000 - 988160 bytes - 4ce7b983 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:10
C:\Windows\syswow64\CRYPTBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74c70000 - 36864 bytes - 4a5bbf41 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:08
C:\Windows\syswow64\SspiCli.dll, loaded at 0x74c80000 - 96768 bytes - 52424339 - file date is 9/25/2013 01:58:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x74ce0000 - 1168384 bytes - 52506fc6 - file date is 10/5/2013 19:57:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x74e90000 - 34304 bytes - 4ce7b8c9 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x74ea0000 - 485888 bytes - 4ce7b82d - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\normaliz.DLL, loaded at 0x74f20000 - 2048 bytes - 4a5bdad4 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:09:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x74f30000 - 1820160 bytes - 52f34aaa - file date is 2/6/2014 08:41:36
C:\Windows\syswow64\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x75100000 - 663552 bytes - 51db9710 - file date is 7/9/2013 04:52:34
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x751f0000 - 350208 bytes - 4ce7b9e2 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\DEVOBJ.dll, loaded at 0x75250000 - 64512 bytes - 4ddb887d - file date is 9/30/2013 19:55:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-advapi32-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x75270000 - 10752 bytes - 50f3243a - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x75280000 - 828928 bytes - 4a5bda69 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:15:44
C:\Windows\syswow64\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x75350000 - 1667584 bytes - 4ce7b9d9 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:52
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\sechost.dll, loaded at 0x754f0000 - 92160 bytes - 4a5bdb04 - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll, loaded at 0x75510000 - 1114112 bytes - 51fb1115 - file date is 8/2/2013 01:50:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x75620000 - 690688 bytes - 4eeaf722 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:57:04
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-user32-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x756d0000 - 4096 bytes - 50f322f9 - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\WLDAP32.dll, loaded at 0x756e0000 - 269824 bytes - 4ce7ba62 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:24:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-normaliz-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x75730000 - 2560 bytes - 50f3244e - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x75740000 - 6144 bytes - 4a5bdace - file date is 7/14/2009 01:16:14
C:\Windows\syswow64\LPK.dll, loaded at 0x75750000 - 25600 bytes - 51b0169d - file date is 6/6/2013 04:57:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x75760000 - 12872704 bytes - 51f1d731 - file date is 7/26/2013 01:56:00
C:\Windows\syswow64\CFGMGR32.dll, loaded at 0x76540000 - 145920 bytes - 4ddb8851 - file date is 9/30/2013 19:55:42
C:\Windows\syswow64\WS2_32.dll, loaded at 0x76570000 - 206848 bytes - 4ce7ba68 - file date is 11/21/2010 03:23:56
C:\Windows\syswow64\api-ms-win-downlevel-version-l1-1-0.dll, loaded at 0x765b0000 - 3072 bytes - 50f322eb - file date is 12/19/2013 17:29:28
C:\Windows\syswow64\USP10.dll, loaded at 0x765c0000 - 626688 bytes - 50adaddf - file date is 9/30/2013 20:02:10
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C:\Windows\syswow64\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x76dd0000 - 311808 bytes - 524ccfcc - file date is 10/3/2013 02:00:46
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C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x77260000 - 1292192 bytes - 521ea8e7 - file date is 12/19/2013 19:04:58

[PV]

Hmmm. There should be a line as I quoted above,

------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------

and then there ought to be about five more lines before the
stack dump (old format) line. These are the ones I need
(and there would be more useful ones further on, if the dump
wasn't writing in old format, which it does at times for reasons
known only to those with far more coding knowledge than I). They
ought to start with "Bob.exe caused an exception..." or something
similar.

[PV]

In my brief flying whilst the v12 remained stable I was taking off from Tangmere which is only 20 miles from my home ( it has a really great museum). I was delighted to see that one of you clever guys has put Chichester Cathedral in - its a great marker for coming in to land !!

Yup, none of that is my work, it was Ben making the model,
and either Ben or Bader placing it. However, I spent a while
getting Thorney Island right a few years ago, and for 2.13,
I have vastly improved the appearance of Bournemouth through
to the Stour estuary, and Newhaven up to Lewes. I am
currently working on the Arun Valley, and I hope to get it done
for the 2.13 release, whenever that occurs.

[madmax]

Hi PV
Sucess! Last night I stripped out every bit of BoB from my machine! I reinstalled 11 and checked that it worked ok which it did then with some trepidation loaned 12 + 11skin.
Thank goodness it seems to work fine now so my next task is to try & load the Tiger Moth! Any tips?
I shall have a fly down to Bournemouth & inspect your work

Again thanks for your support
MM

[stickman]

madmax,

Thank goodness it seems to work fine now so my next task is to try & load the Tiger Moth! Any tips?

The Tiger Moth was an experiment to add new aircraft into BoBII. Unfinished and unpolished.
It will definitely mess up the Campaign, and even Instant Action, as I recall.

If you are new to BoBII, I suggest that you fly the regular combat aircraft that do work well.

This is a war game simulation + a WWII combat flight simulator, not a flight simulator for training in old unarmed biplanes.

Enjoy the air combat first. BoBII is famous for having excellent behaving Artificial Intelligence, and is a real good challenge for a single player to fight the AI.

If you need to practice taking off and landing, then start with the Hurricane or the ME110. They are easy stable aircraft.

[PV]

So, any idea what you might have done to rid yourself off the crashes?

Alas, you won't see the updates to Bournemouth, until 2.13 comes out.
You could take a cruise on the other side of the channel, and take a
peek at Dunkerque, which I improved for 2.12. It is still awaiting ground
objects, though. We don't have any volunteers these days to do
object placement on the new terrain, and Dunkerque would be a huge
job. Ditto for Bournemouth, the terrain is sculpted, but there are no
buildings. I can show a pic preview pic; the original Rowan terrain
is missing the seaside cliff, and all the chines, which you can sort of
see here:



The strips running out into the water are markers for the location of the
pavilion piers, so they can be oriented accurately when they get placed.

[madmax]

Hi
I am not sure what did it - I can only assume that although I reloaded it several times previously something nasty was lurking about which didn't go till I had a thorough 'deep clean' of C Drive!
I note your comments re the TM!
Your work on Bournemouth looks great & an improvement to French side would be good. I note that Calais is rather lacking in buildings etc but without volunteers to do the work its difficult. I wish I knew about programming!
BTW I saw in one of the threads something about bailing out & parachuting - is that available? I could certainly do with it!
I am ok flying the Spit on auto but I realise how difficult it is to fly in 'reality' mode - its so sensitive & subject to wind movement etc! I guess I need to get the hang of take off, landing & circuits etc before I go too far
BR
MM

[stickman]

Here are some good key charts for you:
http://www.a2asimulations.com/forum/vie ... 75#p161171

[PV]

Hi
I am not sure what did it - I can only assume that although I reloaded it several times previously something nasty was lurking about which didn't go till I had a thorough 'deep clean' of C Drive!
I note your comments re the TM!

I've never actually gotten around to trying the Moth, as I was a bit daunted
by the time required for the process of getting it loaded and removed, and
of course pretty much all my BoB time is spent modding. I gather though that
it is a pleasant enough experience, just that your sim is reduced to exclusively
a training and sightseeing sim while you've got the TM on board.

Your work on Bournemouth looks great & an improvement to French side would be good. I note that Calais is rather lacking in buildings etc but without volunteers to do the work its difficult. I wish I knew about programming!

Actually, object placement doesn't require any programming skill, just a tremendous
amount of patience and attention to detail. We have a placement mode built in to
the sim, which when activated allows you to call up building objects, shuffle them around
and park them on the terrain. The ObjectAdds folder in your BoB2 install is full of files
built by this process. Each line of text, about fifty bytes, represents one object placed
by this method, and the folder is about 4MB, so that represents about 80,000 objects
hand placed. It is not quite as bad as that, as a set of templates have been developed
which allow the placement of a swath of 20 or 30 buildings at a time, fitted to town
terrain textures, though often those placements may have to be edited further as the
extent of the template doesn't match the extent of the texture in the particular instance.
So it probably represents perhaps 5000 individual placement steps, by heroic volunteers,
over the last six years since we developed the process.

BTW I saw in one of the threads something about bailing out & parachuting - is that available? I could certainly do with it!

Yes, I guess it is a holdover from Rowan's Mig Alley that it is labelled Eject, and
defaults to the E key. Also, the manual uses "eject", and "bail" - the alternate spelling -
so you won't find it searching for "bale".

I am ok flying the Spit on auto but I realise how difficult it is to fly in 'reality' mode - its so sensitive & subject to wind movement etc! I guess I need to get the hang of take off, landing & circuits etc before I go too far
BR
MM

As Stickman notes, the Hurricane is much less twitchy for starting out.
I was never able to get a Spit off the ground until I had succeeded a
dozen times in the Hurri.

[madmax]

Hi PV
Having read your description of what goes into placement I am even more impressed! The detail of Woolston in Southampton where the Supermarine factory is is great especially the Art Deco design office - I knew this area well unfortunately most of it has been demolished and redeveloped but the massive factory building fronting the water is still there you can see it on Goole Earth about 700 yards north of the Itchen Bridge
Thanks for info re bailing out - I will give it a try
I will also swap to the Hurricane - getting off the ground is not too bad albeit that I am frequently untidy! It's landing which is causing me grief but I think I need to plan my approaches better and resist the temptation to slam it on the ground in the final phase. I see that there is some good advice on the forum which I need to read up on.
One thing I have a prob with at the moment is despite having the canopy open on landing I don't seem able to poke my head outside the cockpit as I was able to do previously ( I use TrackIR). Any thoughts on what might be causing this?
Best Regards
MM