After The He 219....

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I would like to see the JU88, HE111, and DO17 in a package.

Do a search for the "Groundcrew" site... their He111 still holds up (with a little work on the FM). Also, I forget where I got it along time ago, but there are a few Ju88's that still hold up (albeit, again with FM work). Try Simviation for them(?).

Currently, there are some nice payware versions of the P40, Bf-109 and F4F, and nice freeware version of the P-38 and T-6.

Freeware P-38 is fine, plus more coming in the payware department.

Semi-public freeware and public payware P-40's are fine.

Payware Bf 109 is lacking in the VC by screenshots.

Freeware Bf 109's are very severely lacking in the VC as they were adapted to FS9 from CFS2 designs.

Freeware T-6's are severely lacking in the VC department.
F4F... why would anybody in their right mind want to fly a Navy anything?!?!?! (*gotcha-mudmarine-grin*).

There's also a payware P-61 somewhere, but I don't know much about it. My best guess is that none are by WoP standards, but they are available. Also, I hear there is a payware version of the Mosquito coming out.

P-61... I believe it's by Abacus and long in the tooth. Either of which would kill it for today's expectations.
Mosquito... looks real good in screenshots. I believe it will accompany a Lancaster package, and I forget if I read whether it will be available on it's own.

So, by process of elimination that leaves the Me-262. It hasn't been produced for FS9 (one is in the works but its taking forever), and its a tricky bird to fly. Just the kind of aircraft for the next WoP.

While I know nothing about that 262 that's coming, I do know it's nice enough several people are suffering from severe drooling...

So by my scientific process of elimination (read: what I want no matter what *grin*), we need a good Bf 109 followed by a good T-6! (I couldn't vote due to noticing this thread too late. *grin*)

[Jib01]

I don't understand why the majority at this time wants a ME109 ? There are plenty out there already with decent VCs. Sure it would be nice for Shockwave to do one but the thing that Shockwave does best is the reality and excellent VCs so we need to look at what has been missing that everyone wants to fly.

Over at SimHQ we have a number of people that are dying for a good AT6/SNJ trainer with a quality VC.

That is my vote....
Regards
Jib01/02

[Snuffy]

Some of us only run Shockwave 3rd party aircraft. I only have one non shockwave aircraft. AH spitfire etal.

[Li'lJugs]

I chose the "Texan" because that is a "fairly" common a/c, and I can "pretend" that I am really flying it better than some of the more exotic (in RL) a/c.

Same reason I spend most of my FS9 time in GA aircraft, I suppose.

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I don't understand why the majority at this time wants a ME109 ? There are plenty out there already with decent VCs.

Where? By whom? (You certainly don't mean that one payware or any of the freeware versions! LOL)

[GT182]

Hawk, the 61 should be on it's wheels for display this year. It was supposed to be out last year for the show, but wasn't possible. Get your camera ready. LOL BTW, she's nowhere near ready to fly. Still a lot of work to do yet. Hope to see you at the show. If you go thru the Main Gate, that's where I'll be all weekend.

BTW.. I finally voted, I couldn't resist. Voted for the 109, seeing most of the a/c already done are for the ETO. I hope it's at least a G2 model.

Jib01, shame on you, that blasphmey. I doubt that any of the 109s out could compare to what Shockwave can do for it.

[JJB17463rdBombGroup]

GT182 thats great that you work at an air museum too.
My father went with another 463rd B.G. member to donate a M2 .50 caliber Browning machine gun from the 463rd B.G. to a museum quite a while back.Apparently one of the people at the museum was an anti war anti gun guy because afterwards they had heard the M2 was disposed and not put up on display.
It's sad because the people at the bomber restaurant in Oregon are looking for 4 M2 .50 caliber browning machine guns to restore their B17(I think that it is called Lacey Lady).On vacation back in the late 1960's dad took us to that restaurant.

[mudmarine]

I picked the F4F because it's a damn shame there hasn't been a WoP PTO aircraft done yet!!! That means Navy and Marine Corps!!! WE WANT AN ARRESTING HOOK and WE WANT IT NOW!!...Respectully Semper Fi, MudMarine

[GT182]

JJB17463rdBombGroup, seeing I live so far away from MAAM, I don't get down there as much as I'd like to. I do work the WWII Weekend and get to stop in a couple other times during the year. Their website is here... www.maam.org

I've seen pictures of Lacey Lady on the pole but don't have a link to it anymore. I sure hope they restore her completely one day.

There are too few of the B17s left, and even less flying. 10 is the last count I know of that still fly. This year I'll get to see 2 of them... Yankee Lady and 9O9. But the best I've not seen yet will be at MAAM this year, the only flying Avro Lancaster and 109E in North America.

If anyone has anything from WWII that they'd like to donate to a museum, I'd be glad to help get it to Mid Atlantic where it will be safe for future generations to see it.

[AC]

I picked the F4F because it's a damn shame there hasn't been a WoP PTO aircraft done yet!!! That means Navy and Marine Corps!!! WE WANT AN ARRESTING HOOK and WE WANT IT NOW!!...Respectully Semper Fi, MudMarine

The B29 is a WoP PTO aircraft. So are the B17's, P51 and the P47. Also the B24 . That means the Army Air Forces.

[JJB17463rdBombGroup]

GT182 The bomber restaurant's website is

http://www.thebomber.com

Lacey Lady is currently planned on becoming a flyable warbird again according to their site.Thanks for the link.This year I'm going to take my mom to see the B-17 from the Collings Foundation that is scheduled to be in my town on June 28 to June 30.

We have a flyable restored German Me 262 in our area.And there is a B17 at the Boeing Air Museum in Seattle which is 40 miles north of me.
At the Olympia WA airport they had 2 piloted test bed versions of the
V-1 Buzz bomb on display in 2003.I want to see a V-2 (A-4) ballistic missile though.

Hey GT182 I just edited my post .This site although old has a link to B-17 survivors.It also has some other B-17 links too.

http://www.ratol.fi/~tmannine/b-17/index.htm

I know that there is another site that lists crash sites too.I will have to find it later.

[mudmarine]

Let me spell it, Naval Aviation....Aircraft Carrier!! Well AC, the Army Air Corps ain't the Navy or Marine Corps! Never met many Saliors or Marine's that flew B29's. So there needs to be a WoP PTO Naval Aviation plane done. Not the AAC or Luftwaffe. A plane with an Arresting Hook, something that flys off a carrier, Please! Semper Fi, MudMarine

[Point-man]

I think I'm going to have to side with Mud on this one. I enjoy every second of being in the WOP planes that are there now and can't wait for the 219. There are many other aircraft that could be done that I would love to have as well. Such as the ones listed in the polls. Heck I would love to have every warbird from WWII from shockwave!!! I would still like to see a U.S. Navy plane though. I ment what I said about having every WWII bird from shockwave but the wife wouldn't be to happy once she got the credit card bill... hehehe I would really like to see a HE-111/109's and possibly a spitfire to make a battle of britain feel for fs2004. Heck you guys have the models alreay so why not??????

[dj51d]

I had a hard time choosing, but setteled on the T-6/SNJ. IMHO, we really need a T-6 and P-61 up to todays standards.

[tienmac]

I vote for a Harvard Mk. 4 or IIB. As you know they are derivatives of the AT-6 Texan. I have lots of pictures and books for reference.