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 Post subject: Minor issues...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:17 am 
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1: Manual refers to Battery and Generator switch to on. I've found the battery switch, found the Master Avionics switch. Where is the Generator switch? The pop-up instruments die a short while into flight unless this is on - I had to resort to keyboard command.

2: Differential braking does not appear to be working, either with my CH Pedals or with `F11` and `F12`.

3: I know the `I` key smoke is supposed to be subtle, but I can't actually see any. :wink:
Are there `triggers` such as full throttle or something which are supposed to provoke this?

4: The G/S indicator appears to be corrupt in the pop-up panel - I see mutliple instances on the r/h/s of the HSI when ILS is engaged and the g/s is acquired. Doesn't seem to affect acquisition though.


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 Post subject: Re: Minor issues...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:52 am 
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snave wrote:
2: Differential braking does not appear to be working, either with my CH Pedals or with `F11` and `F12`.

FWIW, it does work here, but is only apparant if speed is low.

snave wrote:
3: I know the `I` key smoke is supposed to be subtle, but I can't actually see any. :wink:

It's there. It is sooo subtle, you can't tell it in all light conditions (try viewing from below and to the rear.)

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Are there `triggers` such as full throttle or something which are supposed to provoke this?

Mine does because of a personal addon. PM if you want "auto-smoke" and I'll send you my controller gauge.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:38 am 
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snave wrote:
1: Manual refers to Battery and Generator switch to on. I've found the battery switch, found the Master Avionics switch. Where is the Generator switch? The pop-up instruments die a short while into flight unless this is on - I had to resort to keyboard command.


Check the two buttons on the switchboard under the cover on the righthand side panel.

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Getr the He 219 Engine Start Effects released this mirning at 10:28am. That might change a few things for ya. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:00 pm 
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Differential braking is fixed by changing the contact points - thre's a small error in the left/right axes. No doubt this will be fixed in a patch.

Cycling the generator buttons fixed the electrical gremlins - I'm assuming it was simply a legacy setting from a previous flight as it hasn't re-occurred.

Startup smoke now `obvious` ! :lol:


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snave wrote:
Differential braking is fixed by changing the contact points - thre's a small error in the left/right axes. No doubt this will be fixed in a patch.

Cycling the generator buttons fixed the electrical gremlins - I'm assuming it was simply a legacy setting from a previous flight as it hasn't re-occurred.

Startup smoke now `obvious` ! :lol:


We just checked the contact points, it's not an error in the left/right alignment, it's error in mapping the brakes. The plane has dual main wheels on each side, and on the right side, one of the two main wheels was mapped as a left brake. So you have three out of the four wheels as left brakes, and only a single right brake.

The main download file will be updated immediately, in the meanwhile, copy and paste this section into your aircraft.cfg file for each plane (this covers only the first five contact points, point.0 through point.4, so make sure you paste it in correctly):


point.0 = 1, 16.46, 0, -8.8, 1800, 0, 1.22, 30, 0.15, 3, 0.8, 12, 10, 0, 162, 200
point.1 = 1, -1.6, -9, -8.3, 2500, 1, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 2, 162, 200
point.2 = 1, -1.6, -7.5, -8.3, 2500, 1, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 2, 162, 200
point.3 = 1, -1.6, 7.5, -8.3, 2500, 2, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 3, 162, 200
point.4 = 1, -1.6, 9, -8.3, 2500, 2, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 3, 162, 200


This works for ALL five variations. The difference will be immediately obvious!


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Yes, I have already changed mine. Thanks for the speedy fix, getting out of tight spaces is even easier now, and the start of the takeoff run with a crosswind component is much easier with a dab of brake to keep it straight! :o

On a related point, do we know if the nosewheel on the He219 was steerable? I have in my possession a captioned photograph from the Luftwaffe Profile Series on the Heinkel 219 which states that:
"Tyre size was 770x300mm. The nose-wheel could swing through 90 degrees to either side, but there was no automatic return to the straightahead position" which would tend to suggest it was free-castoring, and I can't see an obvious steering mechanism in any other photos (although it could be an internal ratchet). :?:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:12 pm 
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Precisely how the system worked in the real airplane is probably not well-documented, but FS9 does not allow for free-castoring nosewheels in any case, so ours definitely has nosewheel steering; that's probably why we didn't catch that braking issue. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:22 pm 
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SD_Research wrote:
Precisely how the system worked in the real airplane is probably not well-documented, but FS9 does not allow for free-castoring nosewheels in any case, so ours definitely has nosewheel steering; that's probably why we didn't catch that braking issue. :wink:


Yes, according to the notes on the Smithsonian site (they have the last remaining He219) the nosewheel was steerable. I appreciated that it was a moot point for FS, but it's another of those `little things` that all go toward the enigma of the Owl. :lol:

I shall keep delving, I think I can find Winkle Browns post-war assessment. I bet that goes into specifics!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:03 pm 
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SD... I got the brakes fixed for the A0R6 ok. When looking in the cfgs for the others, they are completely different in the way written. So how is it going to work to copy paste the values you posted to replace the bad ones? If you see what I mean.

These are the values you posted for the fix..
point.0 = 1, 16.46, 0, -8.8, 1800, 0, 1.22, 30, 0.15, 3, 0.8, 12, 10, 0, 162, 200
point.1 = 1, -1.6, -9, -8.3, 2500, 1, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 2, 162, 200
point.2 = 1, -1.6, -7.5, -8.3, 2500, 1, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 2, 162, 200
point.3 = 1, -1.6, 7.5, -8.3, 2500, 2, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 3, 162, 200
point.4 = 1, -1.6, 9, -8.3, 2500, 2, 1.385, 0, 0.45, 2.5, 0.8, 12, 10, 3, 162, 200


Theres are the unchanged ones we need to replace for the other 4 varients..
point.0 = 1.000, 16.460, 0.000, -8.800, 1800.000, 0.000, 1.220, 30.000, 0.150, 3.000, 0.800, 12.000, 10.000, 0.000, 150.000, 195.000
point.1 = 1.000, -1.600, -9.000, -8.300, 1800.000, 1.000, 1.385, 0.000, 0.450, 2.500, 0.800, 12.000, 10.000, 2.000, 150.000, 195.000
point.2 = 1.000, -1.600, -7.500, -8.300, 1800.000, 1.000, 1.385, 0.000, 0.450, 2.500, 0.800, 12.000, 10.000, 2.000, 150.000, 195.000
point.3 = 1.000, -1.600, 7.500, -8.300, 1800.000, 1.000, 1.385, 0.000, 0.450, 2.500, 0.800, 12.000, 10.000, 3.000, 150.000, 195.000
point.4 = 1.000, -1.600, 9.000, -8.300, 1800.000, 1.000, 1.385, 0.000, 0.450, 2.500, 0.800, 12.000, 10.000, 3.000, 150.000, 195.000

Using the new ones seems like it would mess things up royally for the last 4 if you do the change manually. The values aren't written the same. But maybe that makes no difference? I'm no programer so I've no idea.

I do know that Scott says a fix will be out in a patch asap, from an email I got tonight from him. :wink: So maybe my question is a problem. :wink: LOL

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:30 pm 
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GT182 wrote:
SD... I got the brakes fixed for the A0R6 ok. When looking in the cfgs for the others, they are completely different in the way written. So how is it going to work to copy paste the values you posted to replace the bad ones? If you see what I mean.

Using the new ones seems like it would mess things up royally for the last 4 if you do the change manually. The values aren't written the same. But maybe that makes no difference?


Makes no difference...the values in the original set are simply written to the third decimal place across the board. The fix works great for the A2.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:33 pm 
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Yoda wrote:
GT182 wrote:
SD... I got the brakes fixed for the A0R6 ok. When looking in the cfgs for the others, they are completely different in the way written. So how is it going to work to copy paste the values you posted to replace the bad ones? If you see what I mean.

Using the new ones seems like it would mess things up royally for the last 4 if you do the change manually. The values aren't written the same. But maybe that makes no difference?


Makes no difference...the values in the original set are simply written to the third decimal place across the board. The fix works great for the A2.


Right, what he said. Just replace the existing lines with the ones provided in the fix for all five planes. The decimal place is not an issue. :wink:


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On another note, was the A-5 model supposed to have external tanks that were deleted/omitted? (the aircraft.cfg is setup for two externals that aren't on the 3d model) Easily commented out if no externally-tanked update is forthcoming.


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-E wrote:
On another note, was the A-5 model supposed to have external tanks that were deleted/omitted? (the aircraft.cfg is setup for two externals that aren't on the 3d model) Easily commented out if no externally-tanked update is forthcoming.


Those tanks are inside the engine nacelles. You can dump the fuel if desired using the fuel dump handle on the right side of the panel toward the rear. The reference for this plane explains the fuel system in detail; here's the text for reference purposes:

"This aircraft has three fuselage tanks and two nacelle tanks. Each engine can be fed from any of the three tanks via separate fuel selectors adjacent to the throttle quadrant. The first position selects the forward fuselage tank. The second position selects both the center and rear fuselage tanks, and the third position selects the nacelle tank for that engine (the nacelle tanks do not crossfeed). Use the mouse to drag the fuel selector to the desired tank. The fuel gages are on the right side of the cockpit. Each tank has its own gage. The rearmost position, indexed in red, is a fuel cutoff position."

We know y'all are real excited to go flying but give the reading material a cursory glance before heading out into the wild blue yonder. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:09 am 
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SD_Research wrote:
-E wrote:
On another note, was the A-5 model supposed to have external tanks that were deleted/omitted? (the aircraft.cfg is setup for two externals that aren't on the 3d model) Easily commented out if no externally-tanked update is forthcoming.


...You can dump the fuel if desired

Alongside an incorrect mental image of Ar234-like tanks, that's the capability that threw me. There was a fuel dump capability for just those tanks on the A-5?

SD_Research wrote:
We know y'all are real excited to go flying but give the reading material a cursory glance before heading out into the wild blue yonder. :)

One of the nicest "RTFM's" I've read. So then it follows that there was a fuel dump capability for the A-5's nacelle tanks.


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