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 Post subject: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Hi!

I recently bought the P51 Mustang with accusim, and I simply love it! I'm very tempted to get the B-17 as it's simply the most beautiful large 4-prop airplane that has ever been made, but I have a question about it.

I noticed that it's a Wings of Power 2 release, does this still bring the same fidelity and features as the new Wings of Power 3 releases which the P51 belongs to? Will the B-17 ever be brought up to the Wings of Power 3 level, or are there a new one in the works? Just want to know so I can decide to get it now or wait.. :)

Forgive me if it's a dumb question, but I'm just not sure what the WOP 2 vs WOP 3 differences are, and there wasn't any good promo video of the B-17 as there are for the P51 and other aircrafts.. :)

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:36 pm 
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Look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCLMgLB9Qlo

You need this B-17
http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/ind ... ducts_id=6

go to the bottom of the page tick the box for the Add B-17 Accu-Sim Pack.
As to why the other are now called WOP 3 is because the Spitfire, P-40 and P-51 where remodeled from the ground up as I understand it

Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:10 pm 
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It's not a dumb question at all.

The WoP2 B-17G was A2A's first 'native to FSX' product, meaning it was not simply an FS9 model made to be compatible to FSX. The WoP2 P-40 was their second native FSX product, I believe. You'd think the two models would have been AccuSimmed the same way.

The existing WoP2 B-17G was of very high quality to begin with and apparently just needed some touching up and some relatively small changes to the cockpit for animations, etc. I think it was also easy to make AccuSim a 'bolt on' because there was only one variant of the B-17 to work with. It was also a single, standalone product that was only available through the site so there wasn't the complication of adapting multiple versions of the model for AccuSim.

The B-17G was the first AccuSim product to have the maintenance hangar that graphically shows the condition of individual engine parts, by the way.

When it came time to Accusim the P-40, there must have been other considerations that drove A2A to mate AccuSim with a completely new model. I think that part of the reason is because the WoP2 P-40 was available in at least two versions--an early 'standalone' model found on the Aircraft Power Pack 2 DVD, and the full download version that had multiple variants of the aircraft. Perhaps all the new features and animations required so much work that it simply wasn't feasible to release all the new 'update' files and textures in an AccuSim upgrade.

But to answer your question, I don't think the B-17 will be revisited anytime soon. It certainly hasn't been hinted at or announced as a future project. (You never know though; A2A surprised us when they "AccuSimmed AccuSim" by releasing the Captain of the Ship sequal expansion for the Stratocruiser. Lessons learned from the Spitfire/P-40/Mustang trilogy and any future projects might be reason enough to someday revisit the B-17.)

This is only my uninformed opinion, BTW. :)

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:19 pm 
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Sorry, Norforce is more to the point.

The AccuSim expansion for the B-17G includes model and texture upgrades in addition to all the new AccuSim features.

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:27 pm 
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Np m8 thanks for the help , my mind knows what it wants to say but the fingers aren't willing :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 pm 
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Great replies! :)

I thought the B-17 was lacking the great stuff from the new WOP3 with P51 and the others, but seems like it's got most of it short of some minor stuff like the crackling of the engines when they cool down after flight and stuff like that.. At least from what I get an impression of from watching the videos.. A2A should link or post those in the B-17 page in the store! :)

I think I'll go for the B-17, it looks awesome and it seems like it's a really immersive experience to fly it with accusim.. :)


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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:00 pm 
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It's a good product and it will keep you busy with lots to learn and master. You really can't go wrong with any of the AccuSim products; even the P-47D razorback--arguably the 'oldest' plane in the line now since the Stratocruiser was significantly updated by COTS--is still the most immersive radial-cooled single engine warbird available for FSX.

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 Post subject: Re: WOP3 B-17?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:09 am 
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Skauber wrote:
Great replies! :)

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I think I'll go for the B-17, it looks awesome and it seems like it's a really immersive experience to fly it with accusim.. :)


And if after you get the Accu-Sim B-17G and would like and even MORE immersive experience,
come on over and check out the 91st Bombardment Group (H) and fly your B-17G online.
You can take advantage of the training sessions that are run several times a week as well.

http://www.91stbombardmentgroup.com/

(OK Ron, over to you :) )

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