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Hello

I would really like to know what to expect in the upcoming mkV package, what are the main differences betwenn the models, and which ones would we see implemented, of course there are sites which explain them, but it would be great to hear this stuff from people who are in touch with real stuff, and who one can ask for details.

I'm busy designing (and hope to build eventually!) a joystick and throttle system based around a Saitek X45 and a BU0836 Joystick Controller. All the switches and axis required to operate all the controls found in the Spit I/II cockpit will be mimicked but are there any differences between Spit I/II and V cockpit controls...meaning does the MkV cockpit have the same number of switches and controls as the MkI/II and do they have the same function?

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Regards,

Nick

Check out this and talk to the author

viewtopic.php?f=77&t=14676

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Ron
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Cheers Ron,

Caldemeyn/NickD

Ok, I obviously can't say too much but you will find that any Accusim aircraft will represent all/almost all of the systems in the aircraft.

Just about every feature (from an "in the cockpit" point of view) of the Mk II is common to the Mk V line, apart from the Coffman starter. The Mk V's returned to an electrical starter system but added a "Booster Coil" rather than the starting magneto of the Mk I. The basic cockpit switches all function the same way.

A look at the Pilot's Notes will also tell you that the Mk V only had a single fuel tap for Bottom, not duel as in the I and II....and that later V's also had the Drop Tank tap/release gear low on the right side of the cockpit.

I can't comment on which models, subvariants, equipment fittouts etc will be included but I can say that MY policy on developing the Spitifre Sim has been to wire it as a Mk II and leave provision in the cable runs for some Mk V gear.

I think that will keep you busy enough for the present!!


Darryl

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...Some say he never blinks, and that he roams around the woods at night foraging for Merlin parts...

Thanks Ron...have read the topic several times before and found that I had to mop down my keyboard after each reading - a result of excessive drooling!

My intent is to avoid using the keyboard, push buttons with the mouse and push buttons on the Saitek X45 all at the same time as trying to aim my spit in roughly the direction I want to go in...

What I want to do is to fabricate a 'U' shaped panel (perhaps an 'n' shape would be more accurate!) with knobs and switches in roughly the same place as in the 'real' Spit cockpit. There are a couple of differences between the MkI and MkII which isn't really a problem - an extra button for the Top tank meter and CO2 bottle for operating the U/C in an emergency (are all I can think of at this time of the morning!!) and if the MkV only has a few differences then I should be able to accomodate them relatively easily...

...but I'm still undecided as to whether I'll buy the MkV update though.

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Nick

Darryl's cockpit has had some slight changes in the last 4-6 months just look at what he is doing just a slight hint as he is one of the testers as per his post above

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Ron
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TRACKIR 5 & TrackClipPro

Hello.

Thanks for replies, well, what else did i expect from a2a ? , that it wouldn't have all little quirks implemented ? Silly me.

I have a question however, how the airplane behaves with new flight controls, from what i read, the mkV model had these controls covered with metal, not fabric, and how it would look in the model ?

Metal covered control surfaces enabled the Spit to turn faster and tighter, the development coming at around the time where countering the superior Fw-190 made this an increasingly important factor: You can read a mention of the vast difference metal ailerons conferred on the Spitfire in Johnny Johnson's fabulous autobiography ''Wing Leader'', when he recounts flying a mission over France with Douglas Bader. Bader, being the boss, of course had one of the first of the then-new Spits with metal ailerons. Johnson radios Bader and says something along the lines of: ''steady on Douglas, we haven't all got metal ailerons!'' when Bader puts on an extremely tight turn in combat and Johnson cannot stay with him.

Fabric covered control surfaces can balloon out in a vacuum and cause control stick force difficulties and under extreme circumstances they can even shed their surface, and of course they would also be more susceptible to damage from flames too, the doped surface being extremely flammable, so it is conceivable that strikes from incendiary rounds could render the control surfaces useless.

Al

Thanks for explanation, just as i thought, , hope it will be present in the mkV.

Well since the treatment was only to the ailerons it did not allow tighter turns, per say, but it greatly improved roll rates at speed, so pilots could theoretically initiate and complete turns much quicker leading to increased agility. The important thing about the upgrade and the debate that spawned it is that the ballooning phenomenon occurs at high indicated speed. Yes, from what I've heard the metal ailerons did improve the handling and feel in all regimes of flight but the most profound difference, as intended, was during high speed rolls such as during dogfighting.

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I thought that one of the reasons that Bader could pull tighter turns was that he didn't black out due to blood not being forced into the legs as in a normal (for want of a more appropriate word) pilot!

Ted