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One reason I like the P-40 so much. It is a V-12 powered warbird that can get me in and out of places like SABA and St Barts.. If I do it right, I don't even have to ride the brakes too much. Too short for the P-51, and the repeated TOs and Landings in hot tropical weather makes the Spitfire impractical...I want to take off 5 mins after I land, head over to St Barts. That rugged Allison can do it without breaking a sweat This is Flytampa's SABA scenery, part of their St Maarten package. Saba and St Bart's are real fun challenging airports. St Barts, is a particular thrill in the P-40, come in over the hill, cut the power, dive for the runway, one helluva flare, hoping for a reasonably solid touchdown, some brake, show that shark mouth off to the beachgirls at the end of the runway LOL. Then take off for St Maarten, make the famous low approach over Maho beach.




Cheers
TJ

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"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams

Never thought to fly the P-40 there!

This was one of the first sceneries that made me seriously consider add-on scenery (back in FS2004!). Looks nice in FSX, too.

-Ian

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DWC Alumni. Commercial Instrument Single/Multi-Engine Land. Police, Fire, & 9-1-1 Dispatcher. MAINEiac Crew Chief.

Yeah the way the P-40 handles when you cut the throttle...things happen fast, makes it quite exciting.

Here are some shots going in and out of St Bart's TFFJ




You can read the temps here, and this is from taxiing back after a few trips around the circuit. Even a little over redline, she is still cool as a cucumber, granted, she stays cool if you treat her right and bring power back to climb/cruise settings when appropriate.



Cheers
TJ

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haha, pretty awesome stuff.You really do like your P-40 bush flying don't you

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Wow, that looks awesome! Is St. Barts included in the St. Maarten scenery? How is it on frame rates?

Just to compliment your post, here are a couple of incredibly high quality videos I found of the Texas Flying Legends at the 2011 Airshow in St. Barts... including a P-40. One video is from the cockpit! After watching these I really might need to get that scenery!





Sadly, Bob Odegaard, seen in these videos, was killed this year while flying.

Joe

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Really nice links, Joe.

The scenery is top notch. I've owned it for FS2004 and FSX. I was initially cautious when it came to trying a designed-for-FS2004 scenery in FSX, but it turned out to be a good gamble. The islands featured in the videos and TJ's screenshots are all part of the same package, so it's a good price on a LOT of challenging fun. Plus, they come with TNCM, that airport everyone goes to to get blown around by jet exhaust on a beach. You can fly the 377 into TNCM, take a tour in the P-51, try landing at the short strips in the P-40, and...uh...overheat and practice ditching in the Spit.

Honestly, I sort of forgot about this scenery until just now...

Looks like I'll be going back to try the P-40 there!

-Ian

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DWC Alumni. Commercial Instrument Single/Multi-Engine Land. Police, Fire, & 9-1-1 Dispatcher. MAINEiac Crew Chief.

Those are some great videos there Joe

The Flytampa scenery has St Maarten, St Barts, and Saba. I think there was a 'lite' version too that only included St Maarten, so be sure you have the get the right version if you want St Barts and Saba. Quality wise it is quite nice scenery, it has been around awhile, so not quite as fancy as some of the Orbx stuff, but frame rates are fine, unless maybe if you have AI traffic cranked up at St Maarten.

Cheers
TJ

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"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams

Personally, I think Spitfire has by far the superior STOL capabilities when compared to P-40. Landing at St.Barts, even from the downhill side (which in reality is the only permitted one due to no possibility for go-around from the other direction) is, while not perfectly routine, quite possible. And also (almost) safe as long as you have some degree of common sense and prepared to swallow your pride in front of spectators and abort the attempt if it proves futile. Sure, there's some torque twist if you have to abort it while flying at stall speed with flaps down, and that's pretty much how you much approach St.Barts because if you approach with normal speeds, you're not going to get into speed for a 3-pointer at the first half of the runway. However, with some experience, landing Spitfire on St.Barts is very possible, even to downhill, thanks to high drag flaps.

P-40 is possible from the wrong direction while Spitfire is from both. P-51D I've yet to try to land there. Nor have I tried P-40 after the latest few Core versions so it's short field landing capabilities might have improved since then.

As for Saba, you can take off from it with a B-17 (using the drop from the cliff to gain more speed). However, you cannot land it there so it's obvious there could be no B-17s at Saba unless they are shipped in pieces and assembled there...
B-377 I probably haven't tried to either take off or land from Saba or St.Barts. I don't expect it to fare any better than B-17 if even that well.

The P-40 can handle Saba and St Bart's with minimal braking. Granted this fsx scenery doesn't have the downhill runway slope at St Barts, but as far as FSX goes the P-40 does fine for me. I know the Spitfire is lighter and can handle shorter strips. The tradeoff is, going somewhere after you land. In the hot muggy tropical weather of St Barts, your Spitfire won't be too keen on going anywhere for a while after you land, especially if you have been flying low and doing a lot of land - taxiback - takeoff The P-40's coolant and oil temp never becomes an issue with good power and ventilation managment.

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"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams

I meant no disrespect to the Spit, was just making a funny regarding its cooling issues when flying short, low altitude hops in such a warm climate.

The Spit is also a good deal lighter than the P-40, so I bet it gets in and out of short fields quite well by comparison!

-Ian

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DWC Alumni. Commercial Instrument Single/Multi-Engine Land. Police, Fire, & 9-1-1 Dispatcher. MAINEiac Crew Chief.

Landing on 28 is allowed. You're just prohibited from going around on short final... in case self preservation hadn't already brought that point home. Real pilots can never go around anyway!

https://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr ... 2.TFFJ.pdf

There are airports which have really interesting no go-around approaches, where you are heading into a sheer cliff once you are on what you'd normally call a final. They resolve it by having a MDA/DH which would be ludicrous everywhere else...

I get better short field performance in the P-40 than I do in the Realair Lancair Legacy LOL. Just tried to get the Legacy into Saba...just barely made with max braking and speedbrake. The Spitfire's cooling challenge. thats just what makes all these Accusim birds so great, they all have their challenges.

Lukla and Courchevel would also be interesting airports for these birds. The Spitfire would do better at those places with the cold thin air.

Cheers
TJ

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"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams

Of course I had to have a shot at it. Turned out the FSX default St. Bart/Gustaf III is even more horrible than most. Luckily, there's a freeware scenery available though, which seems to be good enough for me at least.

http://marcoh.gratisim.fr/stbarth.html

Cheers,
/Fred

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Any other good ones for FSX? I know St.Barts, Courchevel and Lukla but there's probably more of strips like such.

I honeymooned in St. Bart's. my wife was perplexed that I could just stand at the round about and watch planes land.

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