New update vs Rudder

[MaxZ]

Hello everybody!

I got myself the Civil-P51 recently, and Installed it to P3D where I already have the militäry one. Then I ran the very latest update (07-15-14Update) and came across a problem.

At first I installed the P-51mil,
then P-51 Accusim
then the Update,

After that I got the P-51civ
Installed the plane,
then Accusim again (it's the same Accusim for both, mil&civ)
and then ran the update again.


and now I have no Rudder controll anymore: I can see the Rudder-pedals moving in the cockpit, I can see the Rudder itself moving in an outside view. BUT it has no effect. It doen't matter how hard you push it, it does not work; neither on the ground nor in the air.

I checked if it was my hardware or the Keys and Axis assignments, but they are just fine. The controls also work with any other plane. A2A or non-A2A, but the P-51Ds


Does anybody have a clue for me what to do?
Greetings from LOWL,
Max

EDIT: Both planes work perfectly fine when any other Accusim-Core-Update is installed.

[Scott - A2A]

Max, remove your Mustangs from your SimObjects / Aircraft folder and from your A2A folder. Then install the Mustangs, Accusim pack, them the 7/15 update. Scott.

[MaxZ]

Roger that, will do. Thank you very much!

[n421nj]

I've been having the same issue but only with the military mustang. On take off rudder is nonexistant and the plane veers off the runway everytime. Civilian mustang works fine.

[Scott - A2A]

Andrew, when you installed your Mustangs, you installed the Accu-Sim pack last? Then the 7/15 A2A Update at the top of the forums?

Scott.

[n421nj]

Scott,
The problem has since been fixed but I installed p51 civ then p51 mil then accusim then restarted then installed 7/15 update. I had to Uninstall the complete mustang 3 times and on the 3rd install everything seems to be working. I'm thinking it may have been a simconnect issue. I was having simconnect errors only with the p40 and p51 military while running an atis program that also uses simconnect. I'm guessing the old school military radios don't jive with the atis program Cuz it works fine with the civ mustang.

[CaptKornDog]

I'm having a similar problem, however, I don't have Accusim for the Civlian P-51. The only products I have it for are the C172/PA28. It seems that with this update, rudder has no effectiveness whatsoever. Animations look just fine, control lock removed, autorudder off, but the only way I can steer is with differential braking regardless of stick position; and naturally, just swerve off the side of the runway on takeoff when differential braking can't overcome it anymore.

[Lewis - A2A]

Hello,
what did the installer say about the P-51? If you have it installed in FSX without the Accu-sim package it should not have been detected or updated.

thanks,
Lewis

[CaptKornDog]

Hello,
what did the installer say about the P-51? If you have it installed in FSX without the Accu-sim package it should not have been detected or updated.

thanks,
Lewis

Don't believe it said anything, and simultaneously I've noticed that all of my Cherokee interior sounds have disappeared as well. Guess I'll be reinstalling everything

[CaptKornDog]

Actually, now this is repeatable for me and is also true for all of my A2A Products (C172, P28A, and Civilian P-51).

Following the instructions of:

INSTALLATION ORDER:
1. Aircraft
2. Accu-Sim
3. Accu-Sim CORE update

1) Uninstalled, C172, P28A, Civilian P-51; rebooted in between.
2) Installed C172 that includes Accu-Sim, P28A that includes Accu-Sim, and Civilian P-51 (do not own Accu-Sim for it)....rebooting in between. None of the 3 aircraft have interior sounds except propeller (no switches, etc...or are these excluded for the non-Accu-Sim version?). Verified in-game and aircraft volume turned up. However, Civilian P-51's rudder/tailwheel steering does work.
3) Installed 07/15/2014 Accu-Sim CORE update. Rebooted. P28A and C172 interior sounds work fine. P-51 only has a propeller and canopy sound, but the bigger however is that rudder/tailwheel steering no longer works.

Please help! Granted, I'm a new owner of the P-51 and P28A, are these products simply not meant to work together on a system simultaneously if one (the civilian P-51 in my case) does not have Accu-Sim?

[CaptKornDog]

Tried uninstalling all of my A2A products last night and reinstalling with the instructions above, however with the P-51 first then C172 then P28A. Same result with no internal sounds until I install the Accu-sim core update, but then I lose tail wheel steering on the P-51.

[CaptKornDog]

I have also tried installing my aircraft in the following order this evening (uninstalling them in between each trial)

1) P-51 Civilian without Accu-Sim
2) C172 with Accu-Sim included
3) P28A with Accu-Sim included

1) C172 with Accu-Sim included
2) P28A with Accu-Sim included
3) P-51 Civilian without Accu-Sim

1) P28A with Accu-Sim included
2) P-51 Civilian without Accu-Sim
3) C172 with Accu-Sim included

No change in behavior for each. The P28A and C172 have no sounds while P-51 Civilian has functional tail wheel steering until I install the Accu-Sim Core Update from 7/15. Then the P28A and C172 sounds function normally but I lose control of the P-51 Civilian tail wheel.

Lewis, do you have any other ideas or can you offer anymore formal assistance? I'm at a loss.

Thanks.

[Tug002]

Don't know if this will help but any time I have had an issue with the B-17, mitilary P-51 or the 172 all I had to do to correct it was to restart FSX, load an original FSX aircraft then choose the A2A aircraft of choice. After doing this all worked the way they were designed to.

Keep smiling
Tug

[CaptKornDog]

Don't know if this will help but any time I have had an issue with the B-17, mitilary P-51 or the 172 all I had to do to correct it was to restart FSX, load an original FSX aircraft then choose the A2A aircraft of choice. After doing this all worked the way they were designed to.

Keep smiling
Tug

Thanks, unfortunately have tried that with a default aircraft/airport with no effect.

[CaptKornDog]

Uninstalled the P-51, P28A, and C172.

Reinstalled the P-51, and just the C172 followed by the Accu-sim 7/15/14 updated with the same effect. Tried the same with just the P-51 and P28A also with the same result.