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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:18 pm 
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I have the Thrustmaster Warthog joystick and throttles but run them through FSUIPC, along with many of the switches in my cockpit. I have tried several times to set buttons using the Input configuration program with no luck. Is there an issue with the Configuration and FSUIPC?

If so, do you have a list of L:Vars for the special functions built into the airplane? I can use them to set up macros that FSUIPC will read. I don't want to change my setup just for one airplane by going back the FSX control settings. They are not as solid nor provide as fine a resolution as FSUIPC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:52 pm 
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LINDA is exactly what you're looking for!


LINDA main program v 1.11
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/338310-linda-v111-released/

LINDA module for the P40
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/359128-a2a-p40b-accusim-module-version-10/

LINDA is working very well with the VRInsight MCP Combos but also with any normal Joystick!
I have the Warthog, too!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:21 pm 
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In addition to the LINDA approach, there is a function in FSUIPC to "List local variables" or
words to that effect. That caommand will appear in the Buttons and Switches menus. You can
temporarily assign a button to that feature and hit it when in the pane you want to get the
list from. The list will appear in the FSUIPC4.log file.

Also, when using the configurator, insure that the button/switch is not already programmed
in the controllers sotfware, otherwise it may not be seen by the configurator.

Be careful, however, when attempting to assign buttons/switches to L:Vars as you MAY
be bypassing some essential logic that is present in the code. Case in point, the "On Jacks"
and "Off Jacks" conditions. You may find yourself suspended in mid-flight with no recourse
but to float back down to the ground :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:18 am 
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In addition to the LINDA approach, there is a function in FSUIPC to "List local variables" or
words to that effect.


yes, this is also a feature of the LINDA tracer.
It automatically lists up all LUA variables.
You can send and test the variables immidiately


Paul you really should try LINDA also :wink:
Just for LUA hunting: it makes work so much easier!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:44 am 
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Thank you, Guys. I was not aware of LINDA. I will check it out.

Maybe now I will get the gear up and down. I have crashed three times just trying to push that stupid button with the mouse.

John


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:54 am 
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Maybe now I will get the gear up and down. I have crashed three times just trying to push that stupid button with the mouse.



hmmm... that indeed is just a case of RTFM: you can/should assign a button to the hydraulic pump to raise/lower gear with the A2A Joyconfigurator ...

Of course, LINDA has also a assignment for it


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:12 am 
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guenseli wrote:
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Maybe now I will get the gear up and down. I have crashed three times just trying to push that stupid button with the mouse.



hmmm... that indeed is just a case of RTFM: you can/should assign a button to the hydraulic pump to raise/lower gear with the A2A Joyconfigurator ...

Of course, LINDA has also a assignment for it


Guenseli, I appreciated your earlier advice, however not the above comment. I have read the fu%&ing manual several times. The reason I originally posted here was because I could not get the joystick configuration application to program my joystick or any of the other switches in the cockpit.

Thanks again for the heads up on LINDA but please don't insult me with RTFM comments.

John


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:41 am 
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jmig,

In another thread, which I'm sure you read, one guy had a problem getting the configurator to map because he had his controllers 'disabled' in FSX (since he was using FSUIPC exclusively). Just probing around here, and seeing if you might be doing the same?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:50 am 
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bigjuicyspider wrote:
jmig,

In another thread, which I'm sure you read, one guy had a problem getting the configurator to map because he had his controllers disabled in FSX (since he was using FSUIPC exclusively). Just probing around here, and seeing if you might be doing the same?


That is exactly what I am doing. I do not want to run in the FSX configurator. Besides, using FSUIPC, I use Opencockpits SIOC to run some switches and a separate program to run the gauges. I am not interested in changing my configuration just to fly one or two aircraft, be it A2A or VRS F-18. I want to support the efforts of both companies and others. I appreciate their willingness to work outside of FSX to get things done. Still, I don't want to start changing controls every time I switch aircraft.

John


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:22 am 
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okay, if you choose to ever want to use the A2A Configurator, for instance to easily map gear and flaps levers of the P-40, you can 'enable' all the controllers in FSX without it interfering with anything related to FSUIPC (or Linda, I surmise), even going so far as to remove every last button/keyboard/axis assignment within FSX. The controllers are still 'enabled' they just aren't being used for anything other than what you choose to do within FSX, and that might be nothing. There shouldn't be any any problem customizing controls, nor need to change settings for each different aircraft in any case.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:35 am 
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I use controllers enabled in FSX (just not anything mapped in it like buttons or axis). I use the A2A configurators for the ease of programming the most used functions and I supplement that with LINDA and FSUIPC.

This causes no issues to me as long as I don't so something stupid like duplicate a control.

So it is possible to enable the controls in FSX to use the excellent A2A configurators without it causing issues to other control input methods.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:00 am 
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Thanks again for the heads up on LINDA but please don't insult me with RTFM comments.


It was not meant as an insult, maybe I should have added a smiley.
Too bad, that this is the reason for you to get so annoyed ...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:12 pm 
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bigjuicyspider wrote:
okay, if you choose to ever want to use the A2A Configurator, for instance to easily map gear and flaps levers of the P-40, you can 'enable' all the controllers in FSX without it interfering with anything related to FSUIPC (or Linda, I surmise), even going so far as to remove every last button/keyboard/axis assignment within FSX. The controllers are still 'enabled' they just aren't being used for anything other than what you choose to do within FSX, and that might be nothing. There shouldn't be any any problem customizing controls, nor need to change settings for each different aircraft in any case.



Krycekuk wrote:
I use controllers enabled in FSX (just not anything mapped in it like buttons or axis). I use the A2A configurators for the ease of programming the most used functions and I supplement that with LINDA and FSUIPC.

This causes no issues to me as long as I don't so something stupid like duplicate a control.

So it is possible to enable the controls in FSX to use the excellent A2A configurators without it causing issues to other control input methods.


I have run into situations where having both FSUIPC and FSX trying to control axises will cause fluttering of the control surfaces, as FSX and FSUIPC fight each other over the controls. If I recall correctly, Peter states in the FSUIPC manual that if you use FSUIPC to handle the controls, turn off (disable) the FSX controller.

I don't know how this affects buttons? However, by using the "Specific Aircraft" feature in FSUIPC, I can set the controls once and then forget about them. FSUIPC will recognize the P-40 and change the global settings to match the P-40. Afterward they will be reset to global. If I change the button for the P-40 in FSX, I have to change it back afterward to what it was globally.

An example of this is the 'Drop Weapons' button found on the Warthog and other combat sticks. I use it to fire missiles and drop bombs in aircraft that allow that. This is the perfect button for the hydraulic pump in the P-40. If I can get it to handle the hydraulic pump in the P-40 through FSUIPC, it will function this way only in the P-40. Another is the Master Avionics/Battery. Some developers use the master avionics to control the electrical system. Others may use the battery function. With FSUIPC I can set each command to a single switch. FSUIPC will recognize the airplane and set the function as needed, without any input from me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:19 pm 
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guenseli wrote:
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Thanks again for the heads up on LINDA but please don't insult me with RTFM comments.


It was not meant as an insult, maybe I should have added a smiley.
Too bad, that this is the reason for you to get so annoyed ...


I too apologize if I was to quick to get insulted. I am well aware of people who never read the manual then ask for help. I have more years flying, both military and GA in real aircraft, as well as sim flying, than most simmers have been alive. I take pride in figuring it out myself. So, yes I was insulted. However, you had no way of knowing I wasn't some kid who just discovered FSX.

John


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:36 pm 
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ok ok,

as you said, 99% do not read manuals or have a clue of flying - me included.
so "RTFM" fits the most time :wink:

I was not aware that it could offend that way, surely because there are language restrictions as I'm german. And trying to make a joke in english is always a 50/50 chance to fail :mrgreen:


For your problem: LINDA will exactly serve your needs!

Here is a screenshot of the LINDA functions for the P40, that you get an idea, what could be done with it:

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(a few are not listed on this shot)


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