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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:45 pm 
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I took flight on it for my 21st. The first thing that reminded me of the Tiger Moth was the piper Cub.....they are like brothers. Tiger Moth is a very straight forward plane it's as simple as the Cub. It's and absolute pleasure to fly with the Open air cockpit. It Just feels it has A2A Simulations written all over it. Belilve me many vintage aircraft would appriciate the accusim and A2A treatment but this one feels unique. There is alot of room for excitement because it's a straightforward plane. There's no Cub Withouth a Tiger right?

Here is Contessa, it's what her name is. And there is my pilot instructor, retired Air Force Pilot Nick Maylor taking some time to give me pointers before the flight.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:09 pm 
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I kind of like to think the Piper Cub's biplane brother is the good ol' Boeing Stearman.
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If A2A made either one, I'll buy it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:28 pm 
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The Boeing-Stearman PT-17 is a completely different aircraft to the Cub. It's a massive aircraft, with a very large rotary on the front, a baseball bat for a stick and needing a large amount of control movement to fly.

I'd be more inclined to agree that the Cub and the Tiger Moth are similar in size and technique, but likewise, I'd be more than happy for an A2A version of either!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:07 pm 
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the tiger is far better than the pub .. it haveing the correct number of wings for starters :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:13 pm 
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The Tiger Moth would be a great plane to have, and thanks for that great picture.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:49 am 
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N990WY wrote:
I kind of like to think the Piper Cub's biplane brother is the good ol' Boeing Stearman.

If A2A made either one, I'll buy it!



Vertigo Studios made a really good looking model, but It doesn't come with Accusim :/ They made two versions now that I remember. One was the Military Trainer and one was a Racer with modified engine for greater speed.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:51 am 
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billweaver2.0 wrote:
The Tiger Moth would be a great plane to have, and thanks for that great picture.


You're very welcome Bill :mrgreen: when I saw her for the first time in real life she reminded me of the A2A Piper Cub. When I stepped in the cockpit and looked around, she still had the original design from the 1930's and as it came to life and flew with all the vibration of the cockpit and needles, thrust It felt like real life Accusim


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:51 am 
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stiz wrote:
the tiger is far better than the pub .. it haveing the correct number of wings for starters :lol:


Have you ever stood anywhere near a Stearman, if you think the Tiger Moth is far larger than a Cub? You practically need a mountaineering qualification to get to the cockpit of a PT-17! :lol:

I'd still like to see more in the Cub line from Wings of Silver and I do think that something from the dH Moth line, not necessarily the Tiger although that is by far the best known, would be an excellent addition.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:41 am 
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Ian P wrote:
stiz wrote:
the tiger is far better than the pub .. it haveing the correct number of wings for starters :lol:


Have you ever stood anywhere near a Stearman, if you think the Tiger Moth is far larger than a Cub? You practically need a mountaineering qualification to get to the cockpit of a PT-17! :lol:

I'd still like to see more in the Cub line from Wings of Silver and I do think that something from the dH Moth line, not necessarily the Tiger although that is by far the best known, would be an excellent addition.

Ian P.


Tiger Moth is surprisingly an aircraft which you can pick up the tail and swing it around yourself with a bit of effort xD that's gotta say something for sure


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:01 am 
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You know, I could have sworn that quote from stiz said "bigger", not "better" than the Cub last time I read it...

...I think I need to learn how to read again. :? :roll:

I love the Tiger Moth, but the entire Moth series, mono and biplane, tend to be right up there amongst my favourite aircraft so I might be a little biased.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:42 am 
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I can safely say we are defently plane enthusiasts. I have to say stiz did say bigger.....what sort of knoledge do you stiz have of the plane? I'd love to find out. The reason I like this plane is that it feels quite spacious and it's "slow" let's say which gives you a really good opportunity to feel it come to life and enjoy the scenery with utter most pleasure with the open cockpit and it has two of them xD


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:07 am 
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Busty_Bomber wrote:
I have to say stiz did say bigger


as i told ian yesterday, i never said bigger anywhere! :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Busty_Bomber wrote:
N990WY wrote:
I kind of like to think the Piper Cub's biplane brother is the good ol' Boeing Stearman.

If A2A made either one, I'll buy it!



Vertigo Studios made a really good looking model, but It doesn't come with Accusim :/ They made two versions now that I remember. One was the Military Trainer and one was a Racer with modified engine for greater speed.


Vertigo Studios, in my opinion, did an excellent job on the appearance of their Stearman, but that's it. After watching a few videos of the airplane flying on youtube, I think their flight dynamics are way off. For example I find the roll rate to be too fast and the airplane doesn't seem to be draggy enough.

I've flown a Boeing Stearman and it reminds me of a Piper Cub. The simplicity and nostalgia of the airplane is similar to that of the Cub. I've heard the Stearman being called a giant Piper Cub time after time, but I've also heard people say the same about the Tiger Moth. I guess it really depends on who you talk to.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:03 pm 
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The Moth line are a very interesting, and historically significant line of trainer aircraft. There happens to be a man at my local airport with a Gipsy Moth, Tiger Moth, and a second Gipsy under restoration. He is a huge Anglophile; the current Gipsy is a wooden-framed one, and the restoration project is of the metal-frame type.

One must remember that the Piper J-3 cub was never a primary trainer operated by the USN or USAAF, rather, it was used as a trainer by non-military operations yes, but military, no. The planes that really did the primary training of the pilots during WWII for the United States were the Boeing/Stearman PT-17, Fairchild PT-19/26/Cornell, and the Ryan PT-20/22, and some others. Not to discount the Piper Cub's importance, it's just that it wasn't one of the military trainers used by the forces directly. The military operated J-3s were the L-4 Grasshoppers which were the little observation and light transport planes.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:52 am 
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Peter: I don't think you mean Anglophobe, if he owns numerous British aircraft. You might want to consult a dictionary there. ;)

It's also always worth remembering that the Tiger Moth - like the entire Moth line - was not intended as a military trainer, either. It was a privately developed, designed and built civilian aircraft that was adopted by the military as it was already readily available. It was also usually flown as a "military" training aircraft by privately contracted instructors and schools; pre war in civilian colours and once war was declared and civilian GA flying banned painted in military training colours.

However as we're talking about the Accu-Sim Cub here - a Wings of Silver GA aircraft - we're discussing GA biplanes as well. Whether they had a military role or not is comparatively irrelevant. ;)

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