MarcE wrote: ↑18 Apr 2021, 03:37
marez wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 11:34
I doubt it. All planes in msfs2020 fly awful. The flight model of msfs2020 is a joke and no developer has been able to improve the performance of their pay planes. The only solution is that a2a can import his own flight model and this does not depend at all of the msfs modern flight model. I don't know if this is possible
Different is not necessarily worse ^^ Like Cristi said above A2A have circumvented the flight dynamics of FSX and P3D and they will continue to do that in MSFS2020. However I strongly disagree that the flight models were "awful". They do have flaws indeed, a big problem currently is the aileron/yaw behaviour and generally the effect of the rudder of the default flight models. Apart from that there are just some minor issues. But look at it from A to Z: Taxi with realistic power settings. Takeoff without forcing the airplane in the air, it will fly by itself when it's fast enough. good (not yet perfect) thermal/turbulence effects in low altitudes at departure. Fly the airplane through a dynamic atmosphere. Descend and approach with realistic power settings, no 60-70% required in the Cessna with flaps down as in FSX. Try to stall and spin a default airplane in P3D and then do the same in MSFS. The physics and flight dynamics in MSFS are much better than in any sim before. As said, there are flaws and problems to be solved. But even ATSimulations have already resolved these issues with their Piaggio 149, the rudder behaves nicely there. It's all about the will and skill of the developers. And if a Carenado biplane behaves erratically on the ground it's totally up to the devs to do something against it, apparently it's possible.
A2A will have their own environment anyway called Accusim, so whatever they will release into MSFS it will couple amazing Accusim physics and systems with the best of MSFS.
Hi all, have been a long time lurker here and finally registered to post since I have a burning question re: this question of flight model. Firstly from all what I've heard from MS/Asobo and other 3rd party devs like Fenix, it is impossible to implement an aircraft with a flight model completely external of MSFS. Systems wise yes, that is certainly doable (like the Fenix A320 already does with its Prosim based systems code), but when it comes to flight model aircraft developers have to build and base it on the core flight dynamics engine and framework, and tune various parameters and characteristics, etc etc and that is where the ultimate flight model of the aircraft is made or broken (also where an aircraft dev who knows their aircraft like A2A can do a lot of magic). A lot of the initial default and payware aircraft for MSFS were poorly implemented which many then used as evidence for MSFS having poor flight dynamics... but recent examples like the Milviz C310, iniBuilds A310, Fenix A320, etc all have shown great flight models are quite possible in MSFS.
Also, for the aircraft to fully/properly interact with MSFS's atmospheric airflow simulation, weather, etc its flight model needs to be internal in the sim and based on the core flight model and FDE.
Can someone on the A2A team confirm that the Comanche is indeed built on top of the core MSFS flight dynamics engine? i.e.
https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/S ... hysics.htm ... And does it have a flight_model.cfg? If somehow A2A has been able to implement a flight model completely external to the sim (i.e. maybe where MSFS is used just as a display port to "slew" the aircraft via simvars or whatever), that'd be very interesting to learn more about!
In any case, can't say just how excited I am to learn more details about A2A's Comanche and get to fly it, it's going to greatly improve the GA experience in MSFS!
) Oh, it's a nice problem to have!
